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Into the wild, I'm going into the wild, I am. It's been a wild, freedom child since I left my roots back home. Into the wild I'm good. Into the wild I am. It's been a wild freedom child since I left my roots back home.
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Welcome to the Free Birth Society podcast. This is a radical space for women who are ready to celebrate their autonomous choices in birth, motherhood, and beyond. Together, we'll learn about wild birth through personal narrative, we'll explore the politics of birth, and we'll analyze everything that relates to our lives as women from a feminist perspective. Here's your host, Emilee Saldaya. It's
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been a wild freedom check since I've left my rules back home.
Speaker 2
Hello, my friend. Hello. Welcome. Welcome. I'm excited to have you here, but I wanna say right off the bat, you are not getting off the hook telling us your epic free birth tale, but we will save that for a different episode.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Let's do it.
Speaker 2
So Jen and I go way back. I think we connected in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen?
Speaker 3
Eighteen.
Speaker 2
Yeah. At the start of all this FBS stuff and have been friends ever since. And Jen is also my personal naturopath, my wise woman, who I go to with any of mine and my family's ailments or healing symptoms that I don't know what to do with. So she's my is it homeopathist?
Speaker 3
I guess my title is a naturopathic doctor, but I do specialize in homeopathy.
Speaker 2
Yeah. So Jen has, taught me a lot and also helps me figure out the stuff I don't wanna actually learn, which is so great and helpful. So you have played such an important role in my life, and I know I've played an important role in your life, and we're just both very important to each other. So I love having women like that on the show and that I get to kinda share you and some a little taste of your wisdom, you know, with the world.
Speaker 3
Oh, thank you so much. I'm super excited to be here. It's an honor because you have impacted me, especially in the birthing world and just, in awe of everything you've created and what you're doing for humanity with with waking women up to, birthing outside the system. It's it's huge. And I'm gonna actually talk about that today because it's part of what is going on with children. But I'm super excited to be here. So like Emilee said, I'm a naturopathic doctor by training. I I I specialize in pediatrics and, moms, family medicine. I really operate outside of the allopathic medical system even though I have a licensure, and that's mainly due because I went to Florida where, naturopathic doctors are not allowed to be licensed. And so that basically forced me into really honing in on how to cure people without any help of allopathic medicine. Because naturopathic doctors, just like midwifery these days, have been infiltrated. And the more that we try to keep up with the Joneses and have prescription rights and have fancy tools like IVs, naturopathic medicine is being lost. And so when I went to Florida and practiced there, it really forced me to if I wanted to survive and pay my bills and and get recurring business, I had to cure people and get referrals. And I had to know how to do that with herbs and homeopathy and and all the basic, like, foundational nature cure information. And and so free birth aligns perfectly with that because so many of, you know, of the women that I met I've I've been to your festival. I've, like, some of my best friends have come out of there. Are we're just on a different plane of consciousness. We operate out of a different paradigm, and, and that's how I live my life too, out of that paradigm, that old paradigm, which we're gonna get into. That's a lot about what this discussion is about. So I'm really passionate about working with children, especially unvaccinated children, families and moms that are aware of what's going on in this system and they want to get out. And they either have fully removed themselves already or they're trying to get out and they need help getting out. Right? They need help through you to, you know, like really educate them on the birthing practices. And if something comes up medically, they need to know how to treat their children or who they can trust and go to when something comes up so they don't have to rely on allopathic medicine.
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So today, we're gonna be mostly focusing on tackling this question. Why are children so sick? What the fuck has happened to humanity? Why are our kids so sick? Well, not our kids. Actually, we were just talking before we were recording that our kids are, like, never sick. But why are our, meaning the world's, you know, our countries? And then also what to do about it. Right? Would you say that's kind of our where we're heading?
Speaker 3
That's a part. So the first half, I do wanna talk about, like, just give you guys statistics, and I wanna go back in history and pick out some key events that really really impacted children and where we are today and why our kids are so sick and then and then I wanna spend that and talk about okay now that we know what has happened and now we gotta get out of that system and we have to know what to do to actually to to be healthy and to thrive because in this new paradigm, you don't have to be sick. You don't have to be depressed. We can thrive as a species and so educating yourself to know what happened and why why our country is like it is and why our health statistics are like they are is it's so good to know the history so that you can say, oh my god. This is why I intuitively made this decision or this is why we're doing this because there's a big chance that you're the black sheep of the family and that you have a lot of family that are still operating in the old paradigm of allopathic medicine. And, and you and sometimes it feels alienating, right? Like, you are, like, am I making the best decision, you know, because it is birthing outside of the hospital safe, you know? And so but when you have these concrete facts, it gives you confidence to be, like, wow, this is why I do what I do. This is why I chose the lifestyle that I I I am doing, and and it just gives you more confidence as a mother and and and as a human. So let's get started.
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Let's do it.
Speaker 3
Okay. So the first thing that I like to do is just give some statistics because we all know that something's off. Like, we if you look around a normal park with there's lots of kids, it's not the park that we grew up in in nineteen eighty. Right?
Speaker 2
It is not the park we grew up in.
Speaker 3
The obesity rate, the the amount of illness you just see from looking, the autism, the Asperger's, the just, like, slowing down of, like, joints and just, like, how kids are moving.
Speaker 2
Full on deformity. Yes.
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They can't fall.
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Physical deformities are commonplace.
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Yes. And this is the norm now, and that's frightening. A healthy, normal, non obese kid is rare these days, and it's frightening. And it's frightening not only just as a species itself, but, like, our kids are gonna get married one day. You know? Our kids are gonna like, future generations. Like, this is we have to change what's going on in our health. And the thing with that aggravates me with kids is that they're helpless. They can't do anything. This is all on the mothers and on the fathers and their decisions they're making for their children of why they're so sick. And so, so let's go through some statistics. And, you know, this is pretty hot right now just in the global. Like, it like, we are talking about health more and more, and so I have gotten some of these statistics just they're fresh, some of them, but it's pretty eye dropping. So, the CDC says that America has the highest chronic disease on Earth. Okay? So it's really it is we're really focusing on America because we are the sickest nation in the world. We're ranked seventy ninth in overall health in the world, right next to Mongolia. Like, we have the most money, you know, we have so much money, we have so much access to to innovative, things in medicine, and worse, that sick as a nation. It doesn't make sense. Two thirds of Americans are suffering from chronic disease. Okay? Fifty years ago, that number was one percent. Now it's sixty six percent of Americans are suffering with chronic disease. Like, chronic disease meaning, autoimmune conditions, thyroid conditions, gut conditions, cancer, all this stuff. Like, this isn't just like we have a common cold. This is like serious chronic disease. And this number is even more frightening. Seventy four percent of Americans are obese and fifty percent of children are obese. So a hundred years ago, obesity wasn't known. You know, in Japan today, obesity the obesity rate's three percent. Here in kids, here it's fifty percent in kids. So you look out when you're in, like, a mall or somewhere more standard and you see why are kids so obese? What is going on? This is not natural. Half of Americans have prediabetes or diabetes too. And what's even scarier is one out of three kids are now diabetic or prediabetic. So diabetes is a nasty disease. It leads to severe complications like kidney disease, eye disease, fatty liver, everything. And it's just something that you don't wanna mess with. And essentially, diabetes is too much glucose in the system too much sugar. I eat your diet. It's completely reversible if you work on your diet and so you know seeing one out of three kids now are prediabetic or diabetic. We're talking about heavy medications to regulate that if you don't do it naturally in in in a different you know, in an alternative medicine type of base. Alzheimer's, this is frightening. So Alzheimer's has been class is now officially classified as type three diabetes. So it's basically diabetes of the brain.
Speaker 2
That's That's interesting.
Speaker 3
In the brain. And what's even scarier is I've actually seen patients now in their forties that are having Alzheimer's. So we're seeing it happen young happening younger and younger in the population. Alzheimer's used to be for old elder elderly people. Right? And so to see forty year olds get this is pretty frightening. I mean, neurological disease is up. We know, like, ADD, ADHD, Tourette's syndrome, autism, Asperger's, all of that is up. So in the year two thousand, which we were in high school about that time, and the autism rate in America was one out of fifteen hundred. Now the autism rate is one in thirty six kids. That is insane. And in states like California, it's one in twenty two. And so if you go, like, what is happening? Like, what has changed so much? And I'm gonna get into this. And we know that autism we know something like it it's a really actually great experiment because in California where they implemented laws like mandatory vaccinations, now we're seeing autism rates go through the roof. And so we have to just kind of address like, we have to call out what is causing this, and and vaccines do contribute a lot to autism. This is a this is a
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weird Why would why would injecting toxic pharmaceuticals into a child impact their neurological, function? Isn't that hate
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speech? Yeah. Yeah. It just, I mean, basically, it bypass are you serious? Okay. It bypasses the blood. Right? Okay.
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But but, like, it's a fucking crazy thing that people defend.
Speaker 3
It's the it's it's it's bizarre. It's bizarre. If you look at it and you It's a cult. It's a cult. And if you just say, what has changed in this time? Yes. Processed food. But the vaccine the vaccination rate is through the roof. And mandatory vaccines, especially in California, is is it it's causing more and more autism, and it's obvious to everyone who's not part of the agenda. Right?
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Yeah.
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Our kids are so sick that seventy seven percent of our our boys cannot qualify for the military. Now don't get me wrong. I don't want my son in the military. Right? But that's like saying that our that at an age when you are in your prime, like, when kids are eighteen, that's the prime of, like, their athletic ability and that's when, like, men are just, like, the healthiest, the strongest, the most agile. Seventy seven percent of boys can't qualify to join the military now.
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Because
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Because they're so sick, they disqualify because of chronic disease or some type of illness or something. So that's like yeah. This is like it's just and it's it's it is happening worldwide, but the incidences in America is is much much stronger than
Speaker 2
Which that is an interesting point because that seems very counter to like, I get I get the evil agendas to keep everyone sick, except don't you wanna also train, like, an elite group for the military? Like, that seems contradictory to other agendas of our country,
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which is just A lot of these agendas are contradictory. You're just like, they don't make sense. You know? Like, in in reality, don't we want a country that thrives and is healthy? And it's like, what is going on? Who's controlling these streets?
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I think it makes I it makes sense that the evil overlords would prefer a sick people. That makes the most sense.
Speaker 3
They're slaves, essentially.
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean When
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you're sick, you don't cause a lot of you don't fluff the feathers. You just, like, sit on the couch or
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eat think for yourself.
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Yeah. You don't think for yourself. You just follow the status quo, and you want people to be sick. And, ultimately, also, it's a financial thing. Right? Like, when you get children addicted to pharmaceuticals from a young age, they're that that's they're in business the rest of your life. Like, they are gonna be contributing to your funds, so you want people sick. But you would think that people that are leaders of a country like, when you have a leadership position, you want the people under you to be, like, the best they can be. That makes you a good leader. So it on a in in a logical way, it doesn't make sense that they want us so sick unless you have, like, crooked people at the top running the show, which it's obvious that that's what's going on. Okay. This is another scary statistic. Eighteen percent of teens have fatty liver. So that's one out of five kids have fatty liver, which is a direct response to diabetes, food. So nonalcoholic fatty liver disease used to only happen to old people and it was basically caused from obesity and high blood sugars and stuff like that, a sedentary lifestyle. But now one in five kids have fatty liver. So all of these kids eventually are gonna have if they don't get together, they're gonna have to go on the liver transplant list, which we don't which is is already, like, suffering majorly anyway. So to have kids with fatty liver is just, you know, we just never saw this that long ago. In medical school, I learned that fatty liver disease was for, like, old people and alcoholics. Like, that was, like, fatty liver. But to see it in kids, it's very bizarre. Cancer rate in kids is up seventy nine percent. Seventy nine percent. If you look at the chart, I don't have it here. I can show you. But if you look at the chart, you'll see, like, cancer rates in kids and all of a sudden, boom. And it just shoots up. Okay?
Speaker 2
And what happened at that time that shot it up?
Speaker 3
Well, that's what we're gonna talk about. And it this time zone between the last basically hundred years of when our kids have really been, like, really been sick, but really the last twenty, thirty years, you know, is really a big factor in that. And that's when the the main culprits of this are the vaccines and the the food industry.
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And surgical birth, ultrasound technology.
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All of this.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be food, injections, and the way they're born.
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Yep. And it all started and this is what this is I'm so excited to talk about this thing because this is I'm gonna go through the history and say this is the point, but it all started with the Flexner Report of nineteen ten, which changed the face of medicine. To me, it's the biggest hoax in medicine and the history of medicine. It changed the face of medicine globally forever. And, hopefully, we can unwind it. We'll see what happens in the future. Forty percent of teens have a mental diet mental health diagnosis. Fifteen percent of teens are in Adderall. One in four women are in antidepressants. One in four women. Think about being in a room of women and one in four on antidepressants unless you're maybe part of the free work and you're in a free work circle, and then maybe that situation would probably most likely be lower. But a half a million children are SSRIs. These are drugs that, like, essentially, like, shut your emotional you just shut your emotions down. Right? You're like a walking zombie. You can't, like, empathy empathize publicly relate to people when you're on these drugs. And there's something going on with the government. We know that seventy percent of the FDA funding comes from Big Pharma. So the regulatory agencies that are supposed to be in charge of our health and look out for our heart, they're getting money from pharma. So they're not going to say, Oh, this is your fault, right, that they're getting all their money from that. So it's really a problem within the government, the regulatory boards, the, you know, the people that are in charge of big pharma and the research. They're all it's all a revolving door. And
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And the doctors and pediatricians are incentivized by these companies.
Speaker 3
They're incentivized. So I would call them more like slave like people because they don't really have they're just, like, being trained in a doctrine to not think out of the box so that when they're told, like, hey. You're a person you're like, so let's say I have an allopathic or allopathic practice. If you I get a certain amount of money per kid that is vaccinated. And so that if I want to get that bonus and there's like one or two families that are kind of questioning vaccines, I'm just gonna kick them out of my office because they're you know, that's gonna cost me like a couple hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2
But they directly benefit from Direct pushing drugs.
Speaker 3
Directly benefit. They there is incentives, and you can look at, like, different insurance incentives out of a percent certain percentage of and they did this with the COVID vaccine too. If a certain percentage of your of your population is vaccinated, then you get a stipend of money. Mhmm. And and so it's just it's yeah. It's just all about the money.
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And so what the Flexner Report was, it was a a report done in nineteen ten. It was sponsored by the Carnegie Foundation by John Rockefeller. And, basically, he owns, like, big Petro, big Oil, and he saw that there was a lot of money in chemical medicine. And so he got his lawyer to basically write, which was, Abraham Flexner, who got to write the Flexner Report, which which is intent, is what they say, was to standardize and improve medical education through modern science principles. Okay? So that's what they say. But what happened was is in that time when John Rockefeller realized how much money was involved in this, allopathic medicine was the least favorite medicine on the planet. Nobody liked them. Right? Herbalists, eclectic doctors, homeopathic doctors, nature care doctors, these were all the most famous doctors of our time and this is what most of the people chose for their medicine. So, what they basically did is they did a massive smear campaign and they said that they went through all the school, the medical education, and they said that anyone that basically, that follows the Flexner guidance on medical education is going to be brought to the top and this is going to be like the status quo of allopathic medicine, and they shut down all of the other alternative medicine schools, and they shut them down by not funding them. And when they did that when they did that, it it the it it brought allopathic medicine to basically it to a science based system and it brought that basically, allopathic medicine became the standard of care. So you came in. What you're gonna get is surgery, drugs, or radiation. That was, like, the standard of care. And not only did it do that. It's culturally shifted us too like do you remember your grandparents or your mom like their reliance on the allopathic system was like it's kind of nauseating. They like kinda worship doctors right. It was like instilled in them that if you got sick, you go and get on this drug So they wiped out all the information of natural medicine, and I there are people that kept that candle lit, you know, herbalized I
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would I would go even further to say that our our codependence on the medical system goes beyond symptomology. It's also, you know, interwoven into the fabric of our society that you go when you're fine. Right? Think well woman visit, well baby visit, annual, you know, exams. Like, you're just going to go, hey, doc. Wanna find something wrong with me? You know? Like, that is extra cuckoo.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, because when they when the Flexner report came in, they that's what happened is they prioritize hospital based medicine and specialists. And so now you go and see a specialist for everything, and now you just go for checkups because, you know, we gotta make sure you're okay. And they're like, look. If you're gonna know
Speaker 2
Only this, like, random pervert could possibly know that about me.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Right. And it's really detrimental. I mean, I've seen people, they get all these scans, and they're like, they're looking for something. And it's like, look. If you keep looking for something, you're gonna find something. You know? How many cancers are false positive diagnosis? You know? And so
Speaker 2
I'm also thinking, though, just of the, like, the the factory farming assembly line element that shifts. And I and I think about, you know, urine. You're the closest thing, you know not closest thing. You you are the health guidance that I seek, you know, when I don't know what to do. And you and I have an intimate relationship. We've known each other for years. You know? We we know about each other's marriages and mothering and values. And when I have, you know, symptoms or my children do, you know us. So there's an whole, you know, perspective to that that is now gone within what you're describing and what everyone obviously knows of of, you know, the the relationship in medical care. It's strangers. It's completely reductive. It's so narrow, and not just narrow to the body, but to the entire person, which obviously so much is contributing to whatever acute symptom is getting presented. You know?
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Totally. Totally. When I have a patient when I take a patient on, it's not it it's a very intimate relationship, and it makes sense too. Right? Like, you don't get sick because, and we were just talking about this. Like, something came in from the outside and got you sick. You got sick because something was wrong already that that your susceptibility was so low that now you're manifesting symptoms. And so when I go to say, well, what's going on with you? If I only get five minutes with you, I'm not gonna have any idea of what to do. And that's why allopathic medicine is so easy because they follow an algorithm. They just prescribe. They're like, oh, you just have a cough you know, like and it that's it.
Speaker 2
Antibiotics. Antibiotics. My
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husband and I, who's also a naturopathic doctor, joke around, like, how easy it is to be an allopathic doctor. Literally, they don't critically think. They follow an algorithm, and they just give the same prescriptions over and over. And they don't have to follow-up and make sure that patient's better. Right? Like, my whole job depends on someone getting better. I don't I don't I only get paid if I get people better. Like, that's like that. And that makes sense to me. Right? You're coming to get you better. But what other system, what other career do you not have to, like, have
Speaker 2
Be accountable.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Be accountable for anything that you do. It's it's really bizarre. And so just to give you an idea of how much money John Rockefeller put into the Flexner report, he in in the nineteen twenties, it was seventy six million dollars, which equivalent today is one point five trillion dollars that put into this mass marketing smear campaign. You can do a lot with one point five trillion dollars today. We can shut down anything we want with one point five trillion dollars today. And so, essentially, that's what happened, and it laid the groundwork for everything else that was gonna happen after that. And so and and and also too, like, it didn't just influence America. Like, this is a global thing now. Like, this pharmaceutical regime now is a global issue, and it's something that each country is gonna have to take back. I don't know if that's possible. We'll see if it's possible, hopefully, sometime in our lifetime. But we need to have a cultural shift where we don't run to pharmaceuticals into that allopathic mindset when something comes up. And and
Speaker 2
It also, like, it clearly doesn't work. Like
Speaker 3
It doesn't work.
Speaker 2
It's I'd say, like, even bigger than that, it's just interrupting the the herd, you know, asleep consciousness. That's all I mean, it's a big task, but that's all that needs to happen because as soon as someone starts to critically think and, like, zoom out and see the whole thing, the it is it is a logical next step to disengage from pharmaceuticals alone, much less like everything else. But but, really, if we're just if we were just to hone in on pharmaceuticals, like, it's just logical.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's it just takes a little critical thinking to be like, this isn't gonna really work. Or you even maybe try it and it doesn't work and it you get all these side effects. It's, like, obvious that you need to start looking for something else, and it's kind of mind blowing that so many people don't. They just stay on the same narrow minded pathway, and they just keep going to the doctor, like and they they approach each appointment, like, as if something's gonna change. You know? Yeah. And you don't. You they it doesn't change. You go in there for five minutes. They say how are you doing. They don't listen. They keep you on the same drugs, and it's like nothing's changing, yet you're still participating in this system.
Speaker 2
Or they'll put you on slightly different drugs.
Speaker 3
Yeah. We'll put you on slightly different drugs, change it here and there, but they're keeping you in the system. So it really does take, like, a really open minded person or, you know, a critical thinker to actually say, I'm gonna opt out of this system. And then to opt out of it and convince your husband, you know, if you guys aren't you know, and to and to convince your family, which you don't have to convince them. You can just do it. But that you know, a lot of people have an issue with just saying, I don't care what my family does. This is what I'm doing. Your personality is not like that. My personality is not like that. But a lot of people do. They care, you know. And and so, it it's really it's it's really interesting when you think
Speaker 2
Well, they care because they don't have a sense of self, you know, because they're in codependent dynamics, and they're not they're not in healthy they're not in a healthy, functional, secure place in their lives, you know? It's not that I don't care. It's that I'm in relationships with my family members where they respect me
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 2
To make my own decisions. You know? So, like, if my if my mother, like, disapproved of me not taking my daughter to the pediatrician, we would have, like, a real issue.
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 2
You know? Because that's a matter of respect as far as I'm concerned, you know? And my mom knows that, and I know that, and so we have conversations rooted in good faith and curiosity, because my mom is all about the allopathic model. She was a nurse practitioner. She loves the doctor. She loves pharmaceuticals. And and and, honestly, like, that's fine because that's her life to live. But, yeah, I
Speaker 3
I think it's it's, I
Speaker 2
think it's important to name why people care so much, you know, because they're still stuck in trying to get approval from everyone around them because they're deeply insecure, and they haven't really figured out who they are and what their values are.
Speaker 3
Right. Exactly. Exactly. How did your mom approach that? I mean, obviously, you birth outside the system. You have a strong voice about this. Like, how does she even bring this up to you, or does she just know that you're gonna do your own thing? Like
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, we talk about stuff, frequently. You know, she's grown with me. In the beginning, I actually asked her to attend my first birth, and she declined. And she was like, I'm not I don't feel able to be there, like, in a fearless state. And I was like, you know, on the one hand, that, like, hurts my feelings because I'm feeling rejected. And then on the other hand, I really appreciate
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
You know, opting out if you're not the right fit. And then in my second birth, she was here, more so tending to my daughter. You know? She wasn't, like, in the room with me when I had my son, but she was very much in the house. So, yeah, I I think for actually all of us, all of her three children have, as children should, you know, have pushed her out of her comfort zone and into more of an open minded, state. But what I will really credit my mom, you know, and me and my siblings for is we've really valued a healthy dynamic.
Speaker 3
Mhmm.
Speaker 2
And, like, we've worked for that. You know? But part of that is my mom would rather be close to us than judge us.
Speaker 3
Right. Because if you judge them, ultimately, it's gonna push them away.
Speaker 2
Of course. I mean, right? We see it everywhere. All the time. Right. And it's it's I I have so much gratitude for the maturity in my mom to see that because she gets to be really close to all of her kids as a sixty five year old woman.
Speaker 3
That takes a lot of maturity to actually own that. I can't handle this, and I am scared. And so I'm not gonna be part participate in you because so many parents sabotage births just because they're too scared. Yeah. And you you probably know way, way more about that than I do. But it's, if you if we could get to a point where everyone could do what they want without having to worry about what their parents are thinking, that would be ideal. Right? Because in the end, I don't care if you like pharmaceutical medicine. If you're a big pharma girl, I don't care. You're probably not gonna seek my services, but that's okay. I really
Speaker 2
But bigger than that, what we're really saying is around taking responsibility.
Speaker 3
Yes.
Speaker 2
And the, like, caring what people think and and, you know, having these conversations, those are all just, like, elements of are you or are you not owning your life and standing in your truth and taking responsibility for yourself and your choices and your actions, and most adults are not.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Full respond full radical responsibility and and and power is what you need to do to get out of this old paradigm. It takes some some balls. It takes a strong person.
Speaker 2
You cannot say it takes balls on my podcast. Ovaries.
Speaker 3
It takes ovaries. It takes courage. That would be the great thing to say.
Speaker 2
It does take courage, and it takes self awareness, and it takes, you know I mean, it takes a lot of stuff that I think a lot of people are just beginning to scratch, you know, their surf scratch the surface with.
Speaker 3
I I just remember the pressure. I was in osteopathic school because I thought, you know, oh, osteopathic school is more integrated than natural. You know? So I remember when I was in, osteopathic school, and I'm just getting drugs and surgery, and the comments they made were insane, and I dropped out. I mean, the what people thought of me was insane. You know? I was gonna go to this, like, witchy naturopathic school now instead of, like, be a doctor. And it was it took a lot of, like, mental strength just to, like, hold myself because I didn't have a lot of support because no one knew what I was doing. They just saw me drop out of medical school, and they just thought I was going crazy. You know? But I knew that I just like, if I wanted to heal myself, what do I do if I have a sore throat? I don't wanna take the drugs that I'm supposed to be giving to patients. You know? So I just knew, like, I know that there's a system of medicine out there that can cure people quickly, and that's what I was on a mission to to find and but that took a lot of strength to just, like, not let the outside noise of people's calling me crazy, when I did leave that that allopathic system of medicine. So if we continue on, like, what was the side effects of the Flexner Report? You start you you you travel in history, and one of them is is that as they made medicine more and more specialty based, the the whole profession of obstetricians came up. Right? And so and when that came up, we had a mass exodus from home birth to the hospital, and that happened really around nineteen forty, nineteen fifty. Right, Emilee? Yeah.
Speaker 2
I mean, it started before that. But by I think it was by somewhere in the mid forties, it was, like, a very small percent were still at home.
Speaker 3
Yeah. And, honestly, this is, like, a lot of your this is your base of knowledge. Birthing is your, like, is your domain. So definitely, like, hop in here here. But, you know, just the what it did was when you transition from, a natural birthing, just natural process of life to a hospital that you turn birth into a medical procedure now, and it became something to fear and something to be scared of, and something that wasn't natural and that you needed some doctor to help you do it because this wasn't natural. And and what the Flexner Report also did was at what it did to discredit other practitioners is it made them get licensure and it made them get formal education. And midwifery midwifery wasn't part of that. It was passed on through just passed on through mentor and disciple. And and so basically midwifery declined. What do you know what was before like, did most people use midwives before this or did most people free birth or was it a common
Speaker 2
No. They definitely use midwives in our country, but, and there were also physicians. There were, like, family village doctors
Speaker 3
Mhmm.
Speaker 2
Who were male. You know? That was that was present before hospitals as well. Yeah. It's really a fascinating time in our history to learn about
Speaker 3
It really is.
Speaker 2
And then when they enter the hospital, you know, they're introducing ether. And so women are birthing unconscious, and the babies are born I mean, babies are born drugged now. So different drug. Same shit, different drug. You know? But that's where the whole slapping the baby comes from because babies were born barely conscious Right. Because of how drugged the baby and the mother were. And, yeah, man, the footage from back then, you know, it's alarming and it's gross, but, also, it's pretty similar
Speaker 4
to Yeah.
Speaker 3
It hasn't changed. Right?
Speaker 2
It really hasn't changed that much.
Speaker 3
The drug has kinda changed, but the whole thing is it's it's got you know, when you look at the whole practice. Yeah. There is a guy named Joseph Chilton Pierce. Are you familiar with him? He, he's known for his work on human development, particularly child development and consciousness. And his whole thing is to basically how you keep a consciousness intact from pre pregnancy to, you know, birth into into developing years, into how to keep a child's consciousness whole. And it starts in the birthing world. I mean, how you enter into the world as a conscious being is the most important thing. It it will un it will set the trajectory of, a brain development. It's just a critical part of of just a your whole entire life is how you're born. And so when they did that, you know, when they brought in fear, when they brought in medicine, sensory deprivation, the bonding, you know, taking a child away from a mother to weigh them and clean them with soap, it that is, like, the most vital the child needs to be immediately on the mother for emotional and physiological development. That's, like, the whole start of it. And so when you mess with these hormones and you met and you take away the child, you are basically, like, disrupting the very first part of the consciousness to already get fragmented. And you can and and you can reverse all this and you can heal from all this, but in the the mass in in the way that we're birthing now and this is why your movement is so huge. I mean you're not just tapping into a thousand women you're tapping into hundreds and hundreds of thousands of women. You probably don't even know how many women you've affected really, you know, and it's a huge movement because not only are you bringing birth back home, but you're bringing back home bringing birth back home away from midwifery, which we now know in order to be a midwife, you have to meet licensure quotas. And a lot of times, they're doing practices that the whole reason you don't wanna be in the hospital is you don't want those practices, and that's what they're doing even at home. It's a glorified hospital. It's insane. And so your movement is just so big on a human consciousness level because these babies are being born and there's no interruption in in that that natural cascade of events that need to happen. And so that's why I just I love your movement so much because you're not only impacting birth and, like, in in in changing women and and helping, like, women. Right? Because we know women can get really messed up if their birth goes bad. It's such a powerful part of who they are. But you're affecting children a hundred years from now. We're not even gonna know. You know? And it's just
Speaker 2
Anne, like, does does do you want your child's birth to be setting the stage for, you know, for for what's the right word? I wanna say this right. Do you want your child's birth to be something they have to overcome and heal from or something that actually provides, you know, the the most spiritually intact foundation in which to thrive from.
Speaker 3
Yeah. If we want our child to thrive, we wanna keep their consciousness whole so that they can just move through life learning and growing as a normal childhood hood. But if you have to go back and try and heal what's been done, that can be detrimental. And a lot of kids don't have that luxury because you would have to be pretty awake to say, I messed up Yeah. And I have to fix this now. You know? Mhmm.
Speaker 4
And I
Speaker 2
don't I mean, I think healing is possible, but I don't know about reversing. I think healing Yeah. Of course. I mean, kids are so resilient.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
And and and kids can overcome, you know, but but what happened happened, you know? Yeah. If they if they missed their first, you know, bonding opportunity, that's always now gone. There will be more bonding opportunities in the future, but never that one.
Speaker 3
Mhmm. Mhmm. It it's a huge and what you know, this is part of like, in the Waldorf education, I know that they they can see how a child behaves and they can actually go and see that where that initial fragmentation could have taken place, where they missed critical parts of development because maybe they they they were, you know, maybe they were birthed into a hospital and and their consciousness and they got separated from their mom and that initial bond was gone. You can see that come out in children three, four, five, seven years later through behavior and stuff, and you can chase back to, like, based on their behavior of of where did that initial fragmentation come from. And so many so many kids, I I don't even know I don't think very many of the population actually can trace that back. They just think that it was it had nothing to do with how their kid is behaving now. Right?
Speaker 2
Conversely, I think about, you know, the freeborn uninjected children that I've met that, my my intuitive sense is had they had surgery and drugs and injections, they would not be okay. No. You know? Like, kids who just are born just kinda more fragile, like, spiritually fragile and, you know, constitutionally, not not even weak. Just like yeah. I'll sometimes be around those kids. I'm like, fuck. Thank god that kid doesn't have thirty injections because you would not be normal. You would not be okay.
Speaker 3
And you have miasms that you're born with, and I think that's what you're saying. If you take a kid who's already fragile and you inject them and poison them and do all these things
Speaker 2
Circumcise them and
Speaker 3
They're yeah. Just so much, like, tragedy on their their consciousness, they are going to be sick. And so that being taken away, now you just have a fragile and load them.
Speaker 2
Like, we all have we all have a threshold of how much abuse and violation we can withstand and still function.
Speaker 3
Right. And it's different for everyone. Sometimes come in, like, kids come in really robust, and they can handle a lot. And like you said, the really fragile children that if they had been subjected to that system, they would be really messed up people. Yeah. And and and then that would speak to the point, well, I've I've met, like, normal vaccinated kids who are really healthy and thriving. Of course, they came into the Earth, like, really robust. Their their susceptibility was really, you know, low. Their vitality was really high. They can handle a lot more of this abuse than some of the the really fragile children can. So so the II think the birthing is such a big part of why we're so sick because it sets the trajectory of how they're going to you know, grow and and and and how they're going to thrive through their childhood and adulthood And so, you know, you can you can have a kid birthed into the hospital system and you can nourish them, not vaccinate them, feed them really good, and they, you know, pretty much are okay. But it it it does play a pivotal role in why we are so sick. Sick. And it's one of those things that we might not contribute it to childhood illness as much, but I think it plays a huge role. Okay. So now we're going down, like so around the like, the next thing that we know that is a big contribution to the childhood illness and to the chronic disease rate is food. And we know this because, you know, food is the mood, food is the base of our health. And around nineteen so the post World War two, we had instant food movement. Remember, like, TV dinners with your grandma's TV tray? You know, Swanson developed the first TV dinner in, like, nineteen fifty three. The fast food movement came in the 1960s. So just to give you an idea, seventy percent of American children's diet is ultra processed food. That means seventy percent. I mean, some of these kids see no life force in vegetables and fruits and, like, in animal products. They see none of this. They just eat ultra processed food. And by processed food, we mean, ultra processed grains, ultra processed sugar, and seed oils. That's what a lot of the junk food is. And could you imagine how you would feel if seventy percent of your diet was ultra processed food? So this is what most of our kids are living with. And so what also happened was around in the 1970s, 1980s, Big Tobacco bought a lot of the big food companies and sent over their scientists from Big Tobacco to the big food industries to create chemicals that would make the food more addictive, make the food last longer on the shelves. And, basically like it was the first initiation of chemicals into the food system. And these chemicals didn't exist. You know, our human bodies aren't meant to survive on eating these chemicals. So, you know, a lot of stuff happened with food with the ultra processed food. You know, we also like started monocropping, like big massive farms of wheat and corn and, soy and canola and that's a lot of stuff that's in mostly processed food. And so in order to have that type of farming, you have to spray massive amounts of chemicals and pesticides and herbicides on it. And so you're getting toxic chemicals in the food itself sprayed on the food through pharmaceuticals and all of these chemicals are infiltrating every cell of our body and especially on a growing young system. I mean, you can, young body can only handle so much of a toxic load compared to an adult. So you put this on top of vaccines and on top of just, like, birthing and, you know, being birthed into a hospital and you just you're setting kids up to fail. And so we know that these toxic chemicals impact our hormonal systems. We know they impact our immune systems, our neurological systems, and a lot of these chemicals mimic estrogen. So what you're seeing now is, typical puberty now in America for kids is ten to thirteen of years old. That's six years younger than it used to be in the 1900s. And so these estrogens are basically like changing our puberty our reproductive system. It's causing a massive rate of infertility. You know there's everything is multifactorial you know, but this is a huge reason of it. I mean breast cancer, which we know is based a lot of driven by estrogen, is one in eight now in our children. Like I said, cancer rates are up seventy nine percent. It's no, like, it's not that hard to, like, figure out why we're so sick. It's really impacting minority communities because seventy percent of food stamps that are bought are used to buy ultra processed foods. So one of the easiest things would be is just don't allow food stamps to purchase crappy food for your kids. You know, that would make sense to me. If you have food stamps, you can buy meat and grains and rice and vegetables and fruits and stuff, but you shouldn't be allowed to buy, like, a bunch of ultra processed food, you know, like, with with that money. And, you know, the school lunches are the same thing. Seventy percent of of school lunches are ultra processed. That's gonna be hard to overturn because you've got people now that are addicted to this food and they want it and they don't wanna make changes too. So it's not only a change from the top down, but you got to educate people of why you don't wanna eat these foods too. So it's like a massive, like, we got it. We got a lot of work to do to change these statistics in America. I think it can be done, but it it is gonna be it has to be done from the top down to regulate to to basically take out all of the revolving doors between, like, the FDA, big agro, big chemical, big pharma, and the government agencies, but you also have to train people on how to eat and how to cook. You know, moms don't know how to cook these days. And so okay. So what do processed foods do to us? And I think we all know this, so I'm just gonna go through this quickly. It's causes massive nutritional deficiencies. These mono props have no nutrients in them and they're lacking and they're high in calories, so they're basically called like empty calories and that's what's contributing to the why kids are so fat. They're eating the you know they're eating a bunch of calories with no nutrients or fiber in it essentially and, you know, it impacts their obviously chronic diseases on the rise. Dental health, gut health, mental health is a big part. When you eat really crappy food, it messes, you know, serotonin and that starts in the gut. And so when you mess your microbiome up, you're messing with your happy chemicals in your brain. And so we're seeing a massive amount of kids be having anxiety and depression, and it's it's it's frankly just awful. And not only that, these foods are addictive. Like, these chemicals, like, literally, like, in fast food restaurants, you know, when you go by a fast food restaurant, you smell, like, the fast food. You actually aren't smelling food. You're smelling the chemicals that they release through the exhaust pipe to attract people that can smell it. And it's not even that you're smelling food, you're smelling chemicals. So these people design chemicals to make their food more addictive so that you will come back and purchase it over and over again. And again, it's like all about the money that and in essence, they want their product to last longer on the shelf so they don't expire and to come back and buy it again so it's more money in their pocket. It's, it's really disgusting what's going on. When we talk about big chemist you know, big big chemistry and and these chemicals, like, around the same time that the ultra processed food started in America around the 50s and 60s, all that's when the chemical era started too. And so before like World War II, we didn't use a lot of chemicals. We had a small little database of stuff that we use. And now that if you look at, like, the American Chemical Council, they'll say there's over ninety thousand chemicals in Comrins. And so that's ninety thousand chemicals that were exposed through through food, through pharmaceuticals, through face products, products, through just cleaning products. So our bodies literally don't know what to do with these toxins. And then the same thing that processed food does, that's what chemicals do. Right? They're neuro they they they affect the neurodevelopment. They're endocrine disruptors I mentioned with the estrogen, and they're they're a huge fat a reason why. If you're exposed to chemicals, you get mitochondrial dysfunction, you get cancer, and because your body you get autoimmune disease. There's toxins in your body and your body is trying to adapt to those toxins. And it's saying, like, there's a foreign substance in my body. Like, I don't know how to operate. Right? Or, like, the cancer starts to grow. And it's it's it's it's just really bad what's happened with our food. You know, and I didn't even get really into what's happening with the animal industry, which I don't wanna go like, any of these subjects, you can deep dive into a rabbit hole and, like, really dig in. But, you know, our farming practices aside from, like, our massive monocrop farming, what we're doing to the animal industry. You know? We've taken, animals from grass fed, grass finished, you know, living regular lives that, you know, that we then, you know, consciously kill and eat, till you you mass produce them. You put them in in in enclosed structures where they never see the sun. You inject them with hormones and antibiotics. You know? What you're getting and when you eat those products is you're just getting a toxic sludge of food. You're not eating healthy meat. So the meat from a grass fed animal versus, a conventional raised animal is going to have a high amount of omega sixes to omega threes, which we know contribute to inflammation. So you're eating processed food, you already have a bunch of omega sixes in you from the seed oil. Now you're eating animal products that are grown conventionally that are just that that ratio is way off. You're getting tons of so you're getting tons of inflammation in the body, which therefore is contributing to chronic disease. And so the bottom line is our food is toxic and you have to make a hard conscious effort to exit the big agro, like, system. You have to eat clean organic food that have been grown and raised properly if you want to be healthy. There's no way around it.
Speaker 2
I mean, duh.
Speaker 3
There's not even like, oh, we, you know, we try a little. We you know, I hear this sometimes. I honestly work with a really great population. I work with people that are pretty awake to this. They've, like, free birth. You know, they're they're already stepping out of the system. But when I hear someone say, Oh, we eat you know like fifty percent organic well, that's not gonna do anything like it's all or nothing with this because you're trying to eliminate how many toxins toxins your kids are exposed to so if you're like trying to do it, well, that's great. That's a first step, but you really have to do it hardcore because any of the any amount is not okay, and they're getting bombarded by so many things. So whatever we can control, we need to control. That's not saying you don't go out to eat occasionally. I mean, do you ever go out to eat?
Speaker 2
Of course. Yeah.
Speaker 3
Yeah. So I mean, we all go out to eat occasionally, but it's like what we eat in the home for most of the time needs to be clean and it needs to be a conscious choice. And it's the hardest choice. I mean, this was all sold to us for convenience. TV dinners, fast food was convenience. And I thought about bringing, you know, women getting into the workforce and being removed from the home, but I'm not gonna do that. Although that does play a critical role in, like like, a healthy child development when their mom is not at home most of the time. Right? But it's all but let me go back to it's all about convenience. And so, yeah, does it take a little bit more time to cook a home cooked meal? Yes. But I'm I can cook a home cooked meal in, like, fifteen minutes, you know, if I'm prepared. So it's really not that much of a
Speaker 2
I mean, a grill a grill and an Instapot Yeah. Are what keep our household alive.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2
But it is I mean, it is it is a I was gonna call it a financial investment, but I'm I wanna use the word financial priority because Yeah. Unless you are, you know, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor. You know? If you if you, like, make ends meet every month, where we put our dollars speaks to what we're prioritizing.
Speaker 3
Yes.
Speaker 2
You know? And and people like to hide behind money or their lack of money. But I do think for most people that I know of or have met or that listen to this podcast, it is about priority.
Speaker 3
Totally about priorities.
Speaker 2
Yeah. And there are some things that are just nonnegotiable or, like, for my family that are nonnegotiable. Man, I feel it in the I think about it whenever I travel around fragrance. I mean, you know, because I'll text you how upsetting it is to me. But I live a fragrant free home in a I I live in a fragrant free bubble.
Speaker 3
Mhmm.
Speaker 2
And it's very intentional. And, you know, our home is free of toxins as far as I'm aware, as far as what I know about. And, wow, because of that, you know, as soon as I'm in default reality and I'm smacked with just all the chemicals, all the fragrances, you know, I have an immediate headache. Like, I don't do well out in the world anymore because I have intentionally moved to the woods, detoxified my life, and taken a lot of responsibility for the health of of how we live. You know, very intentionally left cities and all that. You know, we barely drive and whatever. But I feel that fine tuned health and then trying to ever operate in the normal world or mainstream. But I guess, yeah, I just wanna reflect or mirror again what you just said that it is a priority. It's an investment to make, energetically, of course, financially. But it but the mainstream, you know, what what the powers that be that would love for you to be sick and dependent, you know, are offering you at the cheapest cost, we know where that takes you. And so a really obvious way to, opt out of that is to invest in when you invest in a different consciousness, you're also investing in different products. You are gonna do more stuff yourself. You are going to source from nature and your local community. And, you know, we we pay a lot of money for the meat that we buy in comparison to the dog food that's available at our local grocery store. Like, I just won't eat that meat because of all the stuff that you said. And so we make you know that's a part of our financial, priorities. Yes. You know? It's it's because it's a nonnegotiable, you know,
Speaker 3
but negotiable for Yeah. For us too. And, I mean, I can't tell you how many you know? And, like I said, I work with after I met you, you know, and and I really got I don't see a lot of standard Americans as patients anymore. My husband might, and so I, like, I don't even think of some of the stuff he has to talk about with patients. But I remember when I used to see more standard American patients, like, they would, you know, talk about food prices and stuff, but they would be drinking wine every night. You know? And that's not that's not cheap. So like you said, it's just a priority, and you can eat relatively pretty healthy on a really tight budget. Mhmm. I mean, like, for instance, like, this regenerative ground beef at our, like, no local organic health food store is six ninety nine a pound. Mhmm. You know? And that's pretty affordable. That can feed a family all day.
Speaker 2
Depending on where you live, like, where I live in rural North Carolina, the farms around here, I'm thinking of one in particular, they don't, you know, they're they don't they don't have a lot of money. They're just getting by, and so they aren't gonna pay for the organic label, the process that it is to be organic. But when I moved here, I went and talked to them about it and asked them about their practices. And assuming they're telling me the truth, it is organic.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
You know? And it's a small farm. So there is some effort, you know, required to break out of the matrix as Yolanda calls it. You know, there is some effort required because the shit's not getting handed to you. And at the same time, in some ways, it is easier than it's been for a long time because we can spread information and ideas, ideas, you know, in a way now that wasn't available to our moms.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, it takes courage to say, well, I'm gonna call the farm and ask them what they're doing. You know? And it's like it takes, like, a little effort to, like, make sure, like, if I'm gonna support your product, I'm gonna, like, ask you questions about it. A lot of people don't wanna do that. They just wanna trust, like, the but but that like you said, you have to do your homework, and it's just part of like, it's a little bit more work, but in the end, you make a you ask them one time, you know, let me know if you guys change any of your of your practices, and then you can buy me and not have to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 2
It's making me think about this is kind of a weird turn, but but also not. I there was a period of when I first became a mom that I got really interested in reading about and learning about anti molestation, like, practices, and I just wanted to, you know, know what there was to know as I, had a daughter. And and I'm also a woman's coach, so I am, like, painfully aware of how many children, you know, are are violated by adults. And so one of the things that really stuck in my mind from this one book that I read was this woman said, you know, it'll be awkward and uncomfortable to ask the school these questions or to ask the kids coach these questions, but you need to get uncomfortable so that your child doesn't have to be. Yes. And that really stood out to me. It was like, right. My job is to ask the uncomfortable questions so that my daughter is never in a situation as much as I can curate it where she's, uncomfortable or all the way to the degree of of actually, you know, being harmed. And and it's the same thing here. Like, oh, yeah. It's like a little extra effort to go to the farm. It's a little extra effort to, like, think about your budgeting and include a higher quality meat or to go through and and buy different products in your home or to call around and source. Yes. Yes. It is a little annoying, and it is gonna take you some effort. But we're literally talking about not being one of these statistics that Jen laid out. You know? And and there's it it makes me think about something Yo and I talk about a lot and kind of, like, make fun of a lot because, you know, something that will come back to us about ultrasound is people will be like, you're getting blasted with radiation, you know, in so many ways. Like, you think one ultrasound makes a difference. And Yolanda, I'll credit her here, you know, her response years ago was, well, exactly. Like, my job is to limit my child's exposure. It's not to just not care. The fact that they're going to be exposed to some means I need to take even more responsibility for how I can limit it. So it's not in this whole conversation, you know, it's certainly not to overwhelm anybody. It's Yeah. It's to encourage and hopefully inspire more self responsibility and awareness because there is so much you can do. So, so, so much. And don't focus on the shit you can't do, but there's so much you can do that absolutely makes a massive difference.
Speaker 3
Massive difference. And that's, like, such a great point is is you don't wanna overwhelm people, especially people that are on are new to this journey. And that's, like, what I make to all my patients is, like, it, look, we can't control a lot of stuff what happens outside of the house, but we can a hundred percent control what happens in our house. Mhmm. And that's that's to your point is every decision matters inside the home. And if you have a tight rope in your house, then when you go out, then it's it's okay because you know that a majority of the time that they're not exposed to this stuff and you don't you can't keep your kid in a bubble right. I have seen families that keep their kid in the bubble and that is no good either. I mean these kids can't interact with the world. They They don't have a lot of friends. You know? And, you know, they live on homesteads where there's no people around them, and that's really great. They have removed themselves from society, and in one way, I super honor that.
Speaker 2
There's a way to do that fear based, and there's a way to do it in responsibility, and those feel really different to me. And I see I see families do it both ways. I know what you're talking about, and I can think of so many families right now that they're living on the homestead isolated because they are afraid of the world, and they're afraid of what the world is gonna show their kids and teach their kids, and and for me, I don't I don't resonate
Speaker 3
with that. It's it's to
Speaker 2
to me, that's kind of just you're you're actually inverting the toxic bubble into and then your kids learn to be afraid and then everyone's neurotic. Whereas, there's another way to do it where you can alchemize all that shit, you can take responsibility, and then you can be strong and you can be brave, and then you can choose what your interactions are. And you can even love and appreciate the world exactly as it is because you're no longer victimized by it.
Speaker 3
Yes. Yes. Yes. We actually, like oh, and I'll okay. Like, this is a good point. So, like, when you have jumped into the new paradigm and and in my world, it's a medicine paradigm, but in a lifestyle paradigm too, you can relate to the old paradigm because you are once in there. But when you're stuck in the the old paradigm, it's really hard to relate to the people who have made that jump and so the most important thing that we can do is that's what they say actually, that is what the critics say about of people choosing this lifestyle is that you're gonna put your kid in a bubble and they're not gonna have any experience and stuff, but it doesn't have to be like that if you nourish and you take care of what's in your house, you can go and flourish in the outside world and that's what I encourage people to do. I mean my husband and I can't wait to go to India with my child. I'm not gonna go until like seven or eight when he can't run from me but like to expose him to like massive mind blowing stuff, you know you go to India and and so you want children you want to be part of this world. We are humans. We thrive together. We're that's what humans do we we're not meant to be isolated And I I do have patients, like you said, you've you've talked to a lot of people too that when you are over isolated, it sets people up for depression because when you don't have
Speaker 2
a community
Speaker 3
see. Yeah. You are depressed. And that was a catapult for me actually moving out of Florida is because I didn't have a big community there and I was it was forcing me to be isolated because I didn't wanna interact with the outside world there because I had nothing to interact with and and I knew that that was just the worst way to live. Yeah. We were healthy and we had everything good, but, like, without proper community and not without being able to expose my son to real life, he wasn't gonna have a chance, you know? And so you have to be part of the world. The answer is not to be a bubble. It's just to control what's in your house and to eliminate as much as you can in the house so that you don't have to worry when they're exposed when you go out. And there are stuff that you can do, you know, just like thinking like radiation. Like, you know, when you fly, you can opt out of going through the scanner. Yeah. Is it a little bit of a pain? Not really to me, but some people say it is. But, yeah, they'll pat you down. But, I mean, come on. These people are they're just unconscious. They're just, like, doing their job patting me down. They don't care. You know what I mean? It's like just opt out because the amount of radiation you get in that scan is it's not a big deal if you only do it once and you have no other radiation, but it is a big deal and you shouldn't subject yourself to it. So just do what it takes to get a pat down, you know? And there's so many examples of that. I don't wanna spend too much time on it, but that's that that is the issue is you just consciously do it so that you don't have to live in fear about being in a bubble. Because in the end, it's not about being in a bubble. We have to interact with the world. It is hard to interact with the world when you go to an Airbnb though and there's, like, tons of toxins and and You
Speaker 2
know what I do now? I I email the Airbnb host ahead of time and I say well, I lie. I well, it's kinda not a lie, but I say, my daughter is severely allergic to, synthetic fragrances. And so, yeah, I just send a little thing and I say, hey. My daughter's severely allergic to synthetic fragrances. And so if you have any, can you please sweep the space with as many days beforehand as possible? We won't be able to continue this stay. And I make it, like, pretty intense. And ever since I started doing that, like, a year ago, it's been great. They do? There's not yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If I say well, I specifically say it's about a child. Mhmm. I I specifically don't say I'm allergic because no one gives a shit about the mom. But if I say my child, then they're like, well, we don't want a sick child, and especially now that it is, there is actual evidence that I, like, warned them. It's perfect. It's a perfect idea. Anyone can take it because until Airbnb offers fragrant free, you know, as a as an option, which maybe they'll do someday, but I have found that it's worked flawlessly ever since. Right. And so what I've realized is I can take more responsibility for how I travel and for like, for example, with the opting out of the of the scanner thing, the only way that can work is I need to show up a little bit earlier. I mean, I've never gone through them, by the way. I've never gone through them. But my point is that I
Speaker 3
think you're weird. Right?
Speaker 2
No. Of course not. That's fucking weird, but it's a good point of like I take responsibility for how I travel and I give myself lots of time because I know I'm gonna most likely do the opt out and get the pat down, which, you know, I need a female to do it, and so maybe it takes twenty minutes to get someone in a busy Atlanta.
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Because they'll make you wait on purpose. Right?
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3
They'll wait to the side, and you could easily think, oh, fuck it. I'll just go.
Speaker 2
Well, and there's more males than females, and only females can do it and da da da da. But it's just one example of many. There are many, many, many that instead of feeling victimized by mainstream, you know, there's actually so many ways you can play with it and take it lightly and come prepared and just take responsibility for your interaction with it. And then all of a sudden, it's not actually a problem. Like, zooming out what you are talking about is obviously a problem because we're talking about children and children don't have agency to make these kind of decisions, and it's so depressing and sad that we are that that there is so much evil in power, but at the same time, there's also balance. You know? And and there is so much light, and there's so much choice, and there's so much, good. And and, you know, back to the bubble thing, like, I love the world. I love traveling. I love the world. And so I can love the world and be very conscious about the pieces of it that I say no thank you to, But it doesn't have to be fear based. It doesn't have to be even really that heady. And and, hopefully, that will translate to really healthy children, not just physically, but mentally.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. And this brought up a point to me. It's like nothing really is mandatory. When you look into it and you're like, this does not sound right. I don't want this. What are my other options? All of a sudden, it all unfolds that you have so many options that before you don't think you have.
Speaker 2
Or you find a different practitioner. So this is one of my litmus tests with a chiro or a dentist because I don't do X rays. And so most chiros and dentists require they will say, we won't see you unless you submit to exposing yourself with harmful radiation. And so I have gotten really, clear about how I'm interested in hiring a dentist or hiring a chiropractor. And now, currently, the the chiropractor I see and the dentist I see, they are totally fine with me not doing that. And that wasn't super easy to find, but I'm sharing this because as I got clear, the way in which I engaged with the dentist was really respectful and professional and, you know, like, I I I don't know how to articulate it. I just because I've had people deny me and, like, oh, we don't see people who won't get the X-ray. And that's just that lets me know right out the gates that's not a good fit for me.
Speaker 3
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2
You can do it
Speaker 3
with kid gloves. Right? Respectful. They're like little kids that you just have to kinda follow, like, their little like like, every company has their quirks or whatever. And then you're just like, well, I don't really wanna opt into that part of that. Is that gonna be a problem? You know? And then it's, you know, the thing that this also is with vaccines. Like, when when people say, oh, it's mandatory. I can't tell you how many people that are, like, pretty conscious think that it's mandatory. I'm like, have you ever asked if it's actually mandatory? Because mandatory often means highly suggested. Right? Nothing is actually mandatory. Nothing. Especially when it comes to health, we are we are protected by protected by international Nuremberg laws from World War II. Like, we we you have to have informed consent before any medical procedure. So if someone is saying anything's mandatory, it's absolutely not. That's it's illegal. And, and you just have to ask. You just have to say, I don't like this. What are my other options? And it's amazing what other doors open up.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Or So let's bring this or they'll lie and say it is mandatory, and then you need to remember that you were hiring them Yes. And walk the other way.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Right. And yeah. And then but to your point, if they're saying it's that, then it's like, well, this isn't for me. Let me go call someone else. You know? And this applies to everything in life. I was looking for a plumber the other month and like they were I rent right now and they were telling me I have to get my landlord like four people told me that and I'm like well, I don't really wanna get my landlord involved. My kid put a toy in the toilet. You know, I definitely don't wanna get my landlord involved And I finally called the fifth one, and it's just like, just keep calling until, like, you get the answer that you want because there's so many options out there. But this is applies to anything in life. If you don't like the answer, say, I don't like it. I'm gonna go find the answer that I like that resonates with me. And that's about being you know, you have to be you you just have to know that that's an option because so many people are sheeple. That's what they want. They want sheeple. They want people that don't question anything. Let's talk about vaccines because after Big Agar and Big Food in the 1970s and early 80s, the next big thing that really made a huge impact on our child's health is vaccines. And that was actually in nineteen eighty six. They passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, in, like I said, nineteen eighty six. And what it did was it essentially gave legal protection, legal immunity to vaccine manufacturers that you couldn't sue them if your child got injured from a vaccine. And so it it it incentivized manufacturers to really not put safety first because no matter what, they weren't gonna get any
Speaker 2
That is the most crooked red flag
Speaker 3
thing that exists. I heard someone say this, and it really resonated. There is no other product in the world that if it caused even one death right? You let's take a car seat. If a car seat caused one death in its child, that car seat would be recalled immediately. There's no other product that knowingly causes harm that has no, that has no, what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 2
Accountability. Recourse.
Speaker 3
Accountability for what their product is. And so it's it's really mind blowing. And when you actually this is why I love to have this conversation because when you know this, it it it's like, oh my god. You know, a lot of people don't know this. But, you know, what that did was, essentially, what it did, they did create a VAERS system, which is a a vaccine reporting system for an injury, but there was, like, a study done in Harvard in two thousand eleven that said less than one percent of vaccine injuries are actually reported to VAERS. It's essentially impossible to get in in in to get compensated for any vaccine injury. Some people have. Yes. I I think the number I read was five billion. They've made over five billion payouts for vaccine injuries even with all of this suppression. So that's how dangerous the product is. But let's talk about okay. So so let's just talk about vaccines for a second. The entire schedule has never ever been properly tested no matter what we hear from vaccine makers and lawmakers. It never has. If you were to properly test vaccines like you do other pharmaceuticals, you would do a double blind placebo controlled study. You would take two groups. One, you would give the full CDC vaccination schedule to, and the other one you wanna give it to, and you would see the outcomes of the study would be very obvious what what happens. And, they won't do this study. They they say that it's, that it's, what do they call? They call it, like, injustice. Like, it's not fair to do this study. It's unethical to do this study because then you're vaccinating but but in a way, that doesn't make sense. What do you mean it's unethical? You're saying it's mandatory for these kids to get all these vaccines, yet you won't do a study that proves vaccinated kids versus unvaccinated kids and that and see the health outcomes.
Speaker 2
Well, I guess it would be unethical to test a vaccine, but to test something on a child. But if it was a willing group of parents who were already going to get it but the bottom line is there's no incentive. They don't have to do it, and so they won't. Like Right.
Speaker 3
Of course, they're not going to. Don't worry. Trust us. We got it. We got these injections. Your safety is important to us. Don't even question it. Don't worry. We don't need any information. Trust us. That's why works. It works.
Speaker 2
It totally it's it's fucking wild. But parents, you know, our parents just, like, dropped us off at a school with hundreds of people and adults that took care of us all day that they'd never met. Like, we are a society, generations of society that parents are not properly bonded to and connected and protecting their children. We've been surrendering our babies to the system for a long time. Right. So this is so, so, so, so, so deep in the expectations of how a family rolls. You know?
Speaker 3
Yeah. Mhmm. I mean, and to that point, no one wants to inject their kid with poisons. No one wants to have a baby that is gonna have a side effect of these vaccines. You know? But there are there are ingredients in there that are just, like, like, very questionable. And all you have to do, if you've never done this, is Google CDC vaccine ingredients. You'll get every single vaccine, and they'll list every single ingredient in that vaccine. And what you'll see is pretty eye opening. Aluminum, mercury, we all know that. Aborted cell cell lines, antibiotics, monkey kidney cells, formaldehyde, and it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 2
Well, I I disagree with you that no one wants to inject their kid with toxic chemicals. Like, yes. Yes. They very much do. And it is for social good. It is to protect everybody, and it is what you do. And, therefore, it must be okay. And they are willing on some level to both surrender their authority of their children, which is, of course, on the heels of a fractured birth, being separated. They are not properly bonded. They literally do not have I mean, we have generations of the the dominant culture is not properly bonded to their young. Whereas you look at the free birthers and they're, like, literally over my dead body. Am I going to surrender my child to the government? Like, come for me, motherfucker. No way. Right? Like, that is a distinct difference in mama bear versus instinct injured, non thinker. Mhmm.
Speaker 3
I guess what I meant was if you were to say, hey, you're about to inject yourself. But, yeah, you're, to your point, yeah, they for the greater good, some parents would do it. And you saw those parents when they voluntarily side their sign their young child up to be to get the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 2
Like But they do it in the pediatric. They do it at the hospital. They're Yes. People are willingly injecting their kids with bullshit every day. I mean, that's Yeah.
Speaker 3
I mean, when a newborn baby is born and they go to give the hepatitis b vaccine, it's got two hundred and fifty micrograms of aluminum, which we know is well above the limit for even an adult sized human. So why are they continuing to do this? And and maybe that is your point is actually more valid is that, yeah, people are injecting their kids for the greater good or for bypassing what's in these vaccine or what can do, but we're going to do this for the greater good.
Speaker 2
And And there's there's two there's two kind of sides to this. One one is I think it's very, very hard. I think most people are unwilling to admit nefarious intent from the system Yes. Which is almost funny. Like, it's if it wasn't so dark, it would be kind of funny. Like, just look at history and, like, when did when did the system become well intended for the common person? Like, at what point, you fucking psycho? You know? Like, that is a weird cognitive dissonance commitment that a lot of people have. And then the other piece is that people like to be told what to do. Yeah. And they are not in relationship with taking responsibility, which is kind of the theme of this whole thing. And when you when you're just kinda used to doing what you're told, which women are groomed to be from the moment they're born, and that is the social expectation of a girl who then eventually becomes a mother. I mean, it's just it's perfect. It's such a perfect, almost seamless system of control and domination until you free birth. You know? And then it just interrupts the whole fucking thing. Yeah. It does.
Speaker 3
So by so in the eighteen or nineteen eighties, there were seven vaccines given. Okay? And now we know that by eighteen, there's between about eighty vaccines given it. And if you take that number and you say, we're counting by disease because a lot of vaccines are five in ones, three in ones. So if you take that number and you take out, like, every single number of the disease it's protecting, by age two, kids are getting forty to fifteen vaccine doses and by eighteen, a hundred to a hundred and thirty now. And this isn't going to stop. They recently added COVID to there. There's thousands of vaccines in the pipeline coming, especially when chronic diseases, you know, picking up. There's going to be vaccines for cancer, vaccines for you know, we're seeing a Zimpek for obesity. You know, they're they're they're now saying that kids that are obese under six can or over six can have Ozymak. Well, okay. But that's fifteen hundred dollars a month. It's you know, Medicare is gonna start covering it. So now you have What? You have all these kids that are obese that are now going on on ZipHack being paid by the government. We don't even need to talk about what that's gonna financially do to the government. But all you have to do is take ultra processed foods out and get them into nature naturally moving like kids like to do. No kid likes to sit there. Have you ever met a kid that likes to sit there? Only ones that are extremely dulled out or have autism and they're frozen in time. Those are the kids that sit still. And so it's it's really crazy, when you look at these numbers and you look at, like, what they're willing to give kids, you know, and it's but anyway, so, so it it's when you we know that food impacts biology of a kid. When you start feeding a kid, you know, how you feed them, like, can turn on genetics and it influences the human beings through all their lifetime. Right? What are these injections doing? You're throwing hundreds of missiles into a very vulnerable system. God. And you wonder why kids are so sick. And for people that say autism is not caused by vaccines, wake up. How many stories are there where vaccines, wake up. How many stories are there where parents are saying my kids are normal, and they go in for their shots, and they've never been the same?
Speaker 2
You can But no one gives a shit what a parent says.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2
Once you're out of the cult and you speak about the thing Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't matter?
Speaker 3
It it that it's not the vaccine. It's like, you know, it happened. It just happened overnight that you're
Speaker 2
It's just random.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's random a bit. It it's really disgusting. Okay. The next point I wanna take, and this is, I think, not so much it is impacting physically, but it's really impacting kids on a mental, emotional level, and spiritual level is the educational system. And we know okay. So the public school system is we know the numbers are going down. We know parents are starting to wake up to this, but I do think that not enough parents are awake to what's going on into them. Enough are awake, especially free birthers. We have a rise in home you know, homeschooling. We have a rise in alternative education, which is really great, but there's still a lot of kids that are in this public school system. And really, there's two things that are going on. One I'll talk well, one we'll have fun talking about is, like, the the agenda that's being brought in through this, like, woke the woke kind of liberal agenda where they're bringing inappropriate sexualization, of, you know, different types of literature and stuff into the education and it's just not appropriate. It's completely age inappropriate. It's confusing kids. They're supporting kids that are confused. Kids are already naturally confused. And it's you know, I'm confused. I don't know what I hear. Oh, you're you're a boy. You're a boy to the six year old girl that's a girl. You know? And then they they and and now governors are passing laws where you don't even have to talk to the parent about that. If this if the seven year old wants to make change their sex, usually, it's between the school and the the and the the child now. It's the parents call.
Speaker 2
Believe that anyone still lives in California. I know. Like, I can't believe that parents
Speaker 3
I mean, you live there. I lived there. I lived there a long time in my childhood, and I we went back recently. And when they passed s b two seven seven in two thousand fifteen, my husband and I were very, very upset because because we love California. California is the greatest state. It's beautiful. There's just so much to do. There's just so much to do. There's just so many good restaurants, and they have ruined it. And you can't live there anymore. I have recently talked to someone who was, like, wanting to go back. They escaped up from COVID and they wanna go back. I'm like, what are you going back to? You know? And the only people that I can really it's like these, like, it's like these communities are in a bubble and they're outside the system, but they are going for those communities next. They're going for their homeschoolers next. And so I to your point, I don't know how you can live in California in in any way. But the the one of the even more talk that's actually it was talked about a lot when it got implemented, but no one's really talking about anymore is Common Core. And Common Core is basically so Common Core was around two thousand ten, eleven, and I'm not completely confident on the on that year, but it's around that time. Under Bill Gates, through the Bill Gates and Melinda Foundation and five other people overturned the educational system of essentially overnight. And none of those people have degrees or doctorates in education or human development. They're just, you know, lawyers and and people kind of big part of the big tech techno technocracy. And so what the aim of Common Core was was to standardize education so that the third purse the third grader in California would have the same access to the information as a third grader in Florida. But we all know that standardization doesn't work. A one size all approach to education doesn't work. People learn in thousands of different ways. But it it so but it it what it what I'm gonna I'm gonna go over, like, what it's done to the consciousness of humans. So we know when a child develops, like, what comically develops, around zero to seven is a creative, like, a magical thinking, imagination type of stage that kids are in. And that's the goal is to keep kids as in that stage, in that time of their life, you don't you really want to keep them in their their creative processes. Around seven to fourteen, they start to develop abstract thinking, but abstract and critical thinking happen in the prefrontal cortex of the brain, and that doesn't get fully developed until late teens, early adulthood. And so when you're exposing young kids to critical thinking that's not appropriate for their age, essentially, what it does and what my husband says is it, like, breaks their brains. They're not they actually can't handle that type of thinking, and it sets them up for failure in the future. And so what it does is when you suppress creativity, what you're doing is you're you're when you suppress when you suppress creativity through abstract thinking, you're essentially setting your kid up for, they're not gonna be cognitively flexible. So when you nourish the proper brain development and the neuroplasticity that happens when brains develop, so, like, new brain groups. When you expose your child to something new, they make new brain groups and stuff like that. But when you do it in a a way that's not appropriate, exposing them to, like, analytical thinking and critical thinking that's not appropriate, and they get stressed, they're making these brain groups based on stress versus based on, like, new innovation. And, essentially, the net the net effect of this is that you get a very narrow minded kid that can't think out of the box, that can't like put together because if their brain hasn't properly developed, then what happens like how you critically think and put pace you know, you you know, when you go into a creative mode, you get creative and then you can start to piece stuff together and stuff. You don't have that when your brain hasn't developed properly.
Speaker 2
It's fear focused.
Speaker 3
It's fear focused and it keeps kids locked in a narrow mind of narrow and that's actually what they want. Right? Like, let's you don't want kid you don't want people in society to think out of the box. You want people to line up, take their drugs, and think and work like work and do their job, and that and that's essentially what they're creating with Common Core. And it's it's detrimental. Soldiers.
Speaker 2
Little little baby soldiers. Yeah. You get induced in the you get induced in the hospital and then you you sign up on the assembly line and you take your place. It's they're little drones.
Speaker 3
Yep. And the net effect is a decrease in intelligence overall. And it's like, why would you develop a system of education with a net effect of a decreased intelligence? If you cared about the human like, that's all that matters is you want to let people be creative and come up with innovative ideas so that we can, like, change society for the better. You know? Anyone who's really creative, like, it's, like, impacts people all around them. Look at, like, what you've done. You know? But when you have shut all that down and you really put them in a box, we're not gonna like, these kids aren't gonna have they're gonna and they're gonna it's depressing. Right? Who wants to follow in line and be a sheeple? Like, nobody. So we don't really know what the implications of this is gonna be because it's so new. It's all you know, two thousand ten was what I guess fourteen years ago. That's crazy. But but we do see kids with anxiety and depression and stuff like that. And that on my next point is I'll also answer why that is. But, but it it the education system is it's scary to me in one way because the other stuff is so obvious, like vaccines and food ingredients and stuff. But this is something that that we don't see happening. Right? And parents are so busy and so stressed, and it it's it's it's scary to me. This part of edge the education system is scary to me, and I think that you have to opt out. You have you have to opt out of the public school system if if that's in any way possible.
Speaker 2
Of course, it's possible.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Of course, it's possible. I know, like maybe I shouldn't say this, but, like, the state of Arizona, it's really interesting. They give if you don't send your kid to public school, you get seven thousand dollars to apply to tuition of any of your choice, books, if you're homeschooling books, curriculum, and stuff like that. So, essentially, you're paying tax to public school, and if you don't opt into that system, they're giving you that money back that applies to the school, which is really cool. You know, a lot a lot of people don't like it. A lot of the Democrats don't like it, but and they're trying to shut it down. But it's a really interesting system, and it's incentivizing parents to not send their kids to public school, which has consequences too because now public schools aren't meeting their quota. More kids are going out, and the they're not getting as much money because they don't have as many kids. And so the kids that are forced to be in public school still are not getting the education just because they don't they're not getting the funding.
Speaker 2
There's nothing to fix. It's exactly what it's supposed to be. Yeah. It's working perfectly. Yeah. Just like obstetrics, just like hospital birth, just like the pharmaceutical company, there's nothing to fix. Yeah. They're fucking thriving.
Speaker 3
Yeah. This is what they want. And then when you say, like, this is what they want, it's, like, so hard to imagine that this is, like, actually what the human conditioning wants for our population, but this is exactly what they want. Sick, dumb, and to be slaves. That's it. So the the the last thing I think is the most recent thing that's come up, and it's it's social media tech and devices right, and this is an area that's all new for us because devices really came out around like two thousand and six, the smartphone came out and social media really came about in between twenty ten and twenty twenty. And so obviously we're seeing a rise in, like, kids on on digital platforms and on social media. But what we're seeing is a tremendous effect on mental health. Like, kids, increased screen time is highly associated with depression and anxiety among kids. It promotes, negative self comparison, feelings of inadequacy, social isolation, but it's hitting that dopamine center, right? Like every each like, share, comment that you get, it releases dopamine and it creates a feedback loop that encourage you to go back on the screen because you want to get that hit more and more. But what's happening is when you're living your life on a device and you're getting these serotonin rates and you're scrolling through so fast, getting desensitized to, like, the norm, the actual normal life is too slow for kids. And then they get diagnosed with, like, ADD, ADHD because when they're off their boxes, they're like, it's too slow. So they start moving fast to kind of counteract that. And nature is too slow for them because the devices are so quick and so and so we really it's a fine line between and it it it's causing massive amounts of mental illness. I mean, suicide is up. We know that okay. So this is a crazy statistics. Adolescents who spend three hours a day on social media are two times at risk of getting anxiety and depression and suicide. Right? The average time a teen spends on their phone as up to summer of two thousand twenty three was four point eight hours. So this is setting our kids up for massive mental depression. And it's it's it's it's a problem that we need to really, like, consciously go through because tech is offering so much value to our lives, but at the same time, it's really affecting our kids.
Speaker 2
But there's no reason a child should be on a phone.
Speaker 3
I I totally agree. There's, the guy that's speaking out most about this called Jonathan Haidt, h I I d t, and he says the four norms. No smartphones before sixteen, no social media before sixteen, phone free tools, and more independence free play. And here's the big one, responsibility in the real world real world. Because when you give kids extra responsibility in the real world, they feel valued and they feel part of something. And so and that's a problem is we are because we're protecting our children so much we don't give them as much responsibility in the real world like walk to the mailbox to get the mail. We're scared someone's gonna take them or get a job at sixteen, you know and so really we have to kind of nourish like kids in the natural world more and more And, eventually, they will get on it, and we just try to teach them how to consciously be on a device. And that's a big, big thing to overcome because it affects adults as much as it does kids.
Speaker 0
Mhmm.
Speaker 3
Mhmm. Yeah. So, I know So do you think we're we
Speaker 2
do you have enough to say about the solution that we should just cut it here and this will be the problem and the next episode's the solution? Oh, yeah. So then I think we're gonna leave it here, and this will this will morph into a two part episode. And and so we've just spent all this time really fleshing out the problem, these these main facets that have led to sick children. And so we're gonna come back next week with the solution. So try not to be too depressed in the next week until the next episode is out. And, really, I encourage you if you're feeling jazzed up about, you know, of everything we just covered, come up with and brainstorm with your partner or with your friends or your mom friends. What are some steps, you know, that you feel really willing to do right now in a non fear based way. And I think that's a really interesting and important aspect of what we touched on today. We don't have to be afraid of toxins. We don't have to be afraid of factory farming. We don't have to be anxious that our kids are going to interact with the Internet one day. Something I say in my coaching a lot is awareness instead of fear. So we can use our fear kind of as, like, a bottom rung piece of information and evidence to then get us really curious about where can we take responsibility and what is here for me to be more aware of, and that's where the power lies. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. Jen, thank you so much. And we fleshed out we covered so much ground, and we're gonna be back next week, getting into the solutions. We're gonna share, things that that both Jen and I have implemented into our own families, and cover just all sorts of ways you can start applying, how to take responsibility, how to, what's the right word? Yeah. How to really apply real time solutions for health, for really accessible health, nature based health in your family today.
Speaker 3
Yep. Essentially, we'll talk about how to live and thrive in the new paradigm.
Speaker 2
Beautiful. Alright. Thank you so much. Okay.
Speaker 3
Bye. Okay.
Speaker 2
So we are back with part two. We had a fairly depressing conversation around everything that is wrong, why our children are so sick in America. Well, not our personal children, thank God, but, why our children of our country are so sick. And Jen, doctor Theis, brought forth, these foundational, you know, reasons, and broke them all down the best she could in in a short amount of time. So if you are just tuning in this week and didn't hear last week's, stop. Go listen to it so that you can get all, juiced up for what we're about to get into. Because we're breaking this down into two parts where last week was the problem, and then this week will be much more uplifting and inspiring because it's going be about what we can do about it. It's going to be about solutions and how to, yeah, really discern, like, what is ours? What does ours take responsibility for? What is within our control and power? It's so easy to it's so easy to feel victimized, you know, by these big systems, these evil evil systems that are, you know, just clearly nefarious, and it's really easy to make up that we are too small to affect change. And it's not true. I I understand, and I relate, and I've been there. But, we have so much more power for everyday choices towards health and freedom than, than you might know. And so, yeah, I'm excited to get into just some real real applicable solutions. Where do you wanna start? Should we do, like, a quick review? Where do you wanna start us today?
Speaker 3
Do you wanna do a review? Okay. Every
Speaker 2
review is like everything sucks. Everything in the system sucks.
Speaker 3
We know how sick our children are on. And if you are want the statistics on that I gave, like, refer back to the podcast. But the the big highlights of what I touched on are the key events that set, to set the motion into the deer the deterioration of our children's health are the Flexner report that came out in the early nineteen hundreds, which led to allopathic medicine being the dominant school of medicine that was and where they basically. Took all types of alternative medicine and marginalized them and essentially try to wipe them out, which they were not successful. Thank God but it did set into motion a lot of how medicine how how we grew up with medicine, how our grandparents and then one of that side effect is how we were birth. How we started birthing. We left birthing from the home and we went into the hospital and it became a diagnosis and a problem versus a natural occurring event. We also talked about big food, big chemical big agriculture and how that is one of the main things that really plays a role into our children's physical health. We then went on into the vaccine agenda and talked about just the sheer number of vaccines and the legislation that basically. Gave vaccine companies immunity to lawsuits and litigation, which therefore really increase the vaccine schedule and the amount of vaccines our children are getting. And then we talked about school and smartphones and how really those are impacting more on a mental and spiritual level. And and and so, yeah, like Emilee said, we want to really be solution focused. That's always how I wanna be because it is important to know what's going on. You can't just, like, put your hand in the dirt because that's not good either. But to know what's going on, but then say, okay. Well, what can I do to opt out of all of this and it's actually pretty easy? It's nothing that has to be super stressful. So let's get started with with some of our keynotes. So my husband and I like we always call this this is like the natural foundations the return of man to nature is what you need to be the reason why we're so sick is because we're so removed from nature and the natural occurrence that should be happening and so really what we try to do is live in this world this modern world, but try to be as close to nature as possible. So let's break that down. I think the best one to start with is, the most obvious is clean food. We need clean food, period. And, this the bottom line is is cook homemade food. Make your make your food. Get rid of anything in a box. Read ingredients if you are buying box food, and I like what I've kind of saw a term floating around on social media called single ingredient eating where everything that you eat is one ingredient. So if you're making a dish you you know, use some butter, use some soy sauce or you you know you but everything's one ingredient. It's not from a box that has like twenty chemical ingredients and I think that rule is pretty great. Homemade food doesn't have to be complicated. It doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to take a lot of time. I think that's, missed it, where people get confused as they think they they need so much time, but it's really easy to put, you know, a protein a carbohydrate and a vegetable on a dinner plate and cook that within fifteen twenty minutes and have a really healthy meal. Yeah, you know, of course, the vegan diet is very much more elaborate and it takes a lot more time. But if you're eating like an animal based diet or you're getting a lot more variety, then it really doesn't have to be that hard. You know, buying local is best. Buying organic and local is best, but that's not that's not available for some people. So buying standard organic food from a big market is second best. And, you know, there is people argue with the organic, concept, and I get that argument. Right? They say that small farms can't get, certification for being organic. And I think Emilee made this point when we were talking about food. It's just go to the farmer and ask them. I was at a farmer's market one time, and I was asking them they weren't organic, and I was asking them if they spray. And they're like, honey, everyone sprays a little pesticides on their food. I'm like, well, that's not true. So you'll get the answer if you ask. But eating organic as much as possible. There's a study on EWG that compared, yes, organic food mass produced organic food does have pesticides. But what they found was mass produced organic food has about two to five, residues of organic or pesticides versus conventional produce has about twenty four. So that's a that's a big difference in the number of chemicals that you're eating. So buying organic food is really important. Non gmo. You know things like appeal that's coming out like just anything that's coming out. That's technological base with food. Stay far away from it And, it's pretty easy. I mean, you're just gonna be eating meats, grains, vegetables, fruits, anything that is just from nature. That's what the traditional cuisine is. And it's really if you're somebody that is used to buying packaged food, even organic healthy packaged food, your tongue gets used to eating that stuff. So if you don't have a taste for it, just just give it time because it's the tongue will adapt to to these foods that are more natural versus like all the chemicals that are in food are in are are there actually to make you more addicted to them. So it does take like a detoxing kind of process on your tongue to get rid of that taste for all this chemical food. But EW G's environmental working group. It's a great resource. I'm gonna mention it when we talk about chemicals again, but it's a it's a good resource every year they put out their top ten most contaminated foods that are conventional and their least contaminated foods. And so if you can't buy organic, that's a good list to refer to because it will basically say if if if if the food is in the top ten, you cannot buy it conventional. Strawberries is usually pretty pretty big on that. Another real good rule of thumb is if it has a peel. If it has a peel, it can be somewhat protected. But we all know as a system that does stuff get absorbed, and there is residuals in inside the food even if it has a peel. So that's not my favorite rule, but that is a general rule.
Speaker 2
Strawberries like a sponge.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. And it doesn't have the peel where you can peel it. Cucumbers, you can peel, avocados, things like that. But anything that's just exposed that your grapes are really high, high rated with high pesticides amount. And and that the bottom line is to eat homemade organic food, and it doesn't have to be, like, a big process. It can be you can do it at really cost effective way, and you can do it really cheap too. Mhmm. Now there are so many different diets. I don't really wanna get into individual diets, you know, carnivore, vegan, stuff like that. But, there are some tips that that I that I have in my home that I always that I can kind of live by. Like, I have two boys. I know that they're gonna be going through a lot of food. One thing that's really helped out us out is that I always have beans on. I always soak beans for twelve hours, cook them for twelve hours and so that if I'm ever like we're out, it's five o'clock my son needs to eat when he needs to eat. He needs to eat and if I don't have dinner prepared, I can always put rice and you know we always have rice going. We can always put rice beans and a veggie and he can do he can eat that while we get dinner started so little tricks like that really help so that you're not caught in a situation where everyone's hungry and now you have to cook like a homemade meal. Another idea is I would cook lunch and sometimes dinner when I got up in the morning so that it was pretty much all done. Maybe I had to, like, cook the vegetable for ten minutes or something, but the meat and the grain or the rice is already done. So there's a lot of ways to approach this that it doesn't have to be that doesn't have to take a lot of time. But you do
Speaker 2
Also, shout out for the Instant Pot.
Speaker 3
You do you you guys like the Instant Pot?
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It does everything, and it's so fast. It's so hands off.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's a it's a really great tool. Do you guys cook your meat in it?
Speaker 2
No. We mostly grill. And by we, I mean, him. But the but, like, we can do, you know, rice in an Instant Pot in fifteen minutes Right. And smash burgers on the grill, you know, in a couple minutes. Right. Burgers on the grill, you know, in a couple minutes. You know, just, like, quick and healthy.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I would say have hard
Speaker 2
boiled eggs. We always have hard boiled eggs as, like, a quick grab because I get weird. I'll, like, have three cups of coffee and not eat, and then I'll just be, like, really weird, and there's not time. Mhmm. But the the real like, what's underneath all of this is some of you are listening to this and going, I can't do this. And I don't know your life, so whatever. I don't know what that means, you know, really. But I do know that for me, no one taught me this, and I had to choose it and learn it and prioritize it. And, you know, I've I've eaten clean and healthy and also been pretty darn broke. And it's it's a matter of priority and where you place value because rice and chicken are not that expensive.
Speaker 3
Mhmm.
Speaker 2
You know?
Speaker 3
The beans either, like dried beans, like, you can't get cheaper than that. Rice, beans, ground beef, even Mhmm. Even not ideal ground beef, conventionally raised ground beef is still, like, three ninety nine a pound, and you can argue that that would be better than eating anything from a box. Anything organic from a box either. I'd rather see fresh food. So, no, you can eat, and vegetables are pretty cheap. You can eat on a budget really easily. It is totally about priority.
Speaker 2
Also, I know a lot of people live in cities, and so this might take effort and you'd have to, like, go outside the city. But, you know, be having relationships with local farmers, like we talked about last time, it takes effort, but but then it's set up. I mean, we buy chickens from a chicken farmer nearby who's a friend of ours. We get raw milk from a farm nearby. We get produce from a farm nearby, and we know these people. We've I mean, some of them are our friends and then others, you know, we've gone there. We've met. We've asked the questions. We've seen what's up. And there's there's a spiritual component to having an actual relationship, to having you know, to shaking hands, to seeing where the food grows or where the cows stand that Mhmm. Is, you know, like, obvious. Right? But the the actual connection points and having that be more of a of a real through line. Yes. It takes effort. Yes. Fast food or frozen shit is, in some ways, easier or faster, but it comes at a greater cost in other ways.
Speaker 3
Mhmm. It is a spiritual issue. I once there was a, I heard from a spiritual teacher in India that if you eat food within a ten he used kilometer a ten kilometer base that the Earth has actually the knowledge. So if you walk barefoot on the Earth, the Earth has the knowledge of what you need, and it will actually put those nutrients into the food based on which is makes an argument to grow your own food. But I think that's pretty cool. It's like you're walking barefoot create your own multivitamin if the food is grown near versus food growing around the world, it's processed you know or in the other state, then it's trucked across the country to you where that's like so and then you buy it in a big store and you don't know how many hands have touched your food. You don't know like this journey for food And then there's a farmer down the street that's growing a cucumber that's probably a little cheaper because it didn't have to go through all that gas. So sometimes organic local produce can be cheaper. And and and also too, I would argue in a city, there's a lot of resources in a city. A lot of farmers will come to the farmers market. You know, a lot of good cities have really good farmers markets.
Speaker 2
Mhmm.
Speaker 3
And a lot of those farmers will come to those farmers markets. And so sometimes a city might be easier than being in a rural area where you have, like, a huge, huge farmers market. I I don't I don't see I think it's all excuses when people complain that food isn't a priority because, I mean, we all get tired and we all are hungry and we all sometimes don't wanna make food. And even then, you're it's surprising what you can, like, put on in in three seconds. You know? And so it re it it really is an excuse when people are, I can't eat healthy or I can't cook.
Speaker 2
And there's no denying nutrition being at the core of how you can reverse symptoms, how you can facilitate healing, how you can I mean, your vitality is so directly linked to the food that you do or do not eat?
Speaker 3
Yeah. Food is the heart of the medicine. If you can you can have the greatest supplements and herbs and everything in being put in your body, but if you don't have food as a foundation, then all of those become useless.
Speaker 2
And, yes, I acknowledge I'm drinking a Zevia out of a can while we have while we have this conversation. And, yes, I am a a walking contradiction. Duh. We all are. We're gonna go can free. We decided that's, like, our next step when we we have cans now, and we're gonna move through them and pod free. We've had an espresso that I love. And then my buddy the other day was like they have one too, and they were like, we've made all these efforts to clean up our lives, and then we're heating plastic three times a day. Like, what are we doing? I was like, oh my god. Duh. So cans and the pods are our next level cleanup.
Speaker 3
That coffee thing's a big deal. Even nature pods will have, like, those pods in their office, and it's kinda like, that doesn't make sense. I always just use a simple French press. You know, glass can't beat glass. And you don't have to a lot of those machines, by the way, have mold in them too.
Speaker 2
That's what that's what he said. Oh, so gross. Mhmm. It's
Speaker 3
really gross. And, you know, speaking of mold, let me bring this up because this is, like, such a big movement that I I'm just terrified out, are these pouches that everyone gives their these kids. And, yeah, there's these healthy pouches, and they'll be like meat and vegetable and fruit based. But, a lot of those that they find like, not only do they contain lead in them because of the packaging they're in, but a lot of them are moldy. And so I really, really encourage patients to get their children off of those pouches. And, also, what is it teaching kids when they're just, like, sucking down their food all the time? Like, they should instead of sucking down an apple, they should you know, because it's in a puree, they should hold the apple and eat the apple. I mean, these, like, seven year olds, you don't need a pouch everywhere you go. And so I don't wanna go on a pouch right right because I definitely can, but, I would definitely if your mom likes healthy minded and you're still buying those pouches, I definitely encourage you to get off them. Okay. They're easy.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Totally.
Speaker 3
They're easy. So that's, like, another point is, like, what do you pack? Like, you know, your kids, you're going to the park and everyone the snack movement. Oh my gosh. So I don't wanna go on a rant on the snack movement too, but I've never seen so many snacks before until I had a kid and I went to the park. And literally, I see people, they come to the park, and they, like, don't even go and play. They're like, oh, if it's time for a snack. And I'm like, woah. Woah. You guys weren't even playing in your snack. Well, then, of course, my son wants to know what everyone's eating and stuff like that. But the we don't need to be, like, snacking all the time. I mean, like, kids, yes, they like to snack, but what happened to, like, an apple as a snack or a veggie plate with hummus as a snack or a like, snacks that are actually real food. So many of the snacks, even the organic snacks drive me crazy because they're loaded with sugar and they're, you know, they still have to be processed and they're still ultra they're still ultra processed food even though they're organic. So, you know, when we eat organic, you made a point that I wanna go back to. When we eat organic, yes, we are eating for nutrients, but really what we're trying to do is is be is minus the chemicals in the food. Because they've done studies on nutrient content in produce from, like, nineteen seventies to now to two thousand ten. And two thousand ten is the last number I saw. And, basically, produce is devoid of nutrients by, like, seventy percent because of farm practices and stuff. So that is an issue onto itself is that the the value of nutrients in the much, much lower than it used to be mostly because no one's using, like, permaculture ideas and remineralizing soil and stuff. But, really, the motive to really eat organic is to minimize all the chemicals and the toxins in the food. Yeah. Food's a big one. I would say, like, I could have a I could have a patient for, like, a year. And, you know, there's some stuff that you talk about once or twice, and then everyone gets it. Food is one of those things that every single appointment will always talk about food. And it's just it's it's just, yeah, it's just a hot conversation. There's no one size fits all diet. Like, there is not diets or dairy.
Speaker 2
And, you know, I think for a lot of people, they become parents, and it becomes justifiable or easy to get lazy with the food because they're stretched. You know? And there's they're maybe they're overwhelmed or or stressed because they're juggling more. But the irony is, like, it's the biggest responsibility to lay the foundation for a healthy relationship with food. And what what you set up in your kids in their first five to ten years is is is setting up the the foundation for their entire life. I mean, it's such a big deal. And kids are gonna eat the way you eat. So
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's the bottom line. If I have a kid and mom says they're so picky, then I start questioning their diet. But parents sometimes, they don't wanna they want their kids to eat super healthy, but they don't
Speaker 2
Totally. That
Speaker 3
will work for the first two years, and then the kid will start eating what you want. And so it really is it's a it's a lifestyle change that, that that's super important. One thing that really helped me with a baby is I was always burning fresh food because you put it on, then the baby would need something, and then before you know it, the so I did get, a baby steamer that in a glass contain it had the there's a glass one, and so that it could so I can put everything on. Like, I could put the rice on in the morning. I can cut the meat. I can put some veggies on it. Right before we're about to eat, I press start, and it steams it. And then I don't and then if I have to go do something, the the it's still good. I'm not gonna burn the produce. So that was a really that really helped me with the baby.
Speaker 2
That's funny.
Speaker 3
Okay. But
Speaker 2
food food
Speaker 3
is is the heart. Food is the mood. It creates your mood. It creates everything. It's the foundation of health, and you cannot be healthy without a healthy diet. That's the bottom line.
Speaker 2
You know, this this lion diet thing that we did was so cool. It was so it wasn't it really wasn't hard. And we only did it for a week. It's not, like, that amazing. But still, we so a Lion diet is, red meat only, salt and water. And we did it as a just a reset, and I wanted to just kind of reset my brain around treats. And I was in such a our whole family was in such a treat treat like like, Suni calls herself a a screenie sweetie or a treaty sweetie when she's just saying she just wants sweets and screens. You know? And and, like, of course, we don't give her that much of either of those, but still, it's like if you know? Anyway, so we were like, okay. We kinda need to reset here. And doing it and and pulling our diet back literally as stripped as you possibly can, literally red meat, salt, and water, totally reset. And after just a couple of days, the idea of, like, a bite of Greek yogurt with nothing in it, just a bite of Greek yogurt felt so decadent. You know? Just it brought us
Speaker 3
like, I don't want yogurt.
Speaker 2
Yeah. It brought us down to just simplicity and really got us out of the treat loop that we felt like we were in. Even if the treat was just a small bowl of raw, you know, ice cream or raw milk ice cream or something, still the consciousness and the relationship to the treat and the reward system there was just something I wanted to reset before I got pregnant again. Anyway, it totally worked. It doesn't really work.
Speaker 3
This is, like, this is the concept of fasting and therapeutic diet. And a lot of fasting has gotten, like, a lot of, negative attention, especially on social media, but it's it's a therapeutic tool. It's been we've used fasting for thousands and thousands of years. It's in most literature.
Speaker 2
It's so mental.
Speaker 3
It's deep. And, you don't have to you know, people say, don't fast your hormones and your hormones. But, like, the thing is is, like, fasting, it it's not only a digestive break on the system, but it's a mental it's a mental break too, and it's a reset button. And there's so many ways to fast and do this, this re reset button. You know, the the the true and classic one is water, water fasting. You'd be surprised how long you can live on just a water diet and feel really good too. Green juice fasting is another one. Corn carnivores won't like that one. And then there is, like, something like the lion's diet, which I find really, really I I like it for moms and dads who have young children because it's really hard to water fast and be around life. It's because when you water fast, you, like, need to sleep a lot and, like, you really your whole life changes. But with something like the lion's diet where you just eat meat three times a day, it's enough to give you energy to get through the day, but not even just give you energy to get through the day. Like, you actually start feeling really good, and you actually are, like, really thriving and and and and feel and and doing really well, especially day three, four. But and so it gives you that energy the day. And then, also, your kids are seeing you eat, so they're not, like, wondering why mom and dad aren't eating anymore. But it's such a powerful way to reset. And it's like I said, it resets the digestion, but it also resets the tongue and just your cravings. Like, where you would maybe crave chocolate every night, now you're like, oh, I really want an apple. Mhmm. So it's and it gives and it's good to do that. It's good to be disciplined with our diet to to do this once in a while. It's really great to do it, you know, before you get pregnant just to give yourself a reset. But therapeutic fasting is is super beneficial on health that I you know, in in some of the spiritual literature, it's people they would do it, like, four times a year or around the seasons.
Speaker 5
Mhmm.
Speaker 3
And, and, you know, sometimes that can see you. Well, that's a lot, but, like, once to twice a year to to really kinda give your life a break from food and just kind of be you. And what also you see is how much time you have. Did you notice how much time you had? Well, I
Speaker 2
don't make any of the food. So either way
Speaker 3
Even just like you would eat, like, a piece of meat and then it'd be like, okay. We're done. Let's like you know, when your kids aren't home having a nice dinner for lunch, it'd be just like you would eat and you would just eat your meat and go on versus, like, eating real Yeah. Super simple. So
Speaker 2
And we we eat food in such a reactive state because we live in such a reactive state, and and the lion's diet made it so, like, simple and not heady, and there was nothing reactive there. There was just it it was, like, quiet. It was simple and quiet, which I guess is the point of the reset. Because there wasn't, like, it wasn't great. It wasn't bad. It was just eating for fuel and then moving your day. It was nice.
Speaker 3
That's what I was actually gonna say is when you start when you do something like the lion's diet, you you you stop eating by cravings or because you're hungry. You just eat to get that energy and you're a little hungry, and then you, like, go on about like you said, go on about your day. You're not eating from cravings and stuff, and it's, like, actually, it's really it's really a sim it's a mind you get a break in your mind a little bit. I encourage anyone that that that is leaning to of course, you don't wanna do it when you're pregnant and when you're breastfeeding, although you could probably do the you could definitely do the lions. I was I was referring to, like, water fasting Oh. In general, but you could definitely do the lions. Right? But I encourage everyone to to get familiar with it and do it. It's it's such a therapeutic tool. And it's also a very good tool to heal symptoms, by the way. There is nothing better than water fasting to get rid of a symptom. Like and, obviously, that doesn't work with children. But if you're an adult and you have, like, eczema or something, the magic my my patients always want a magic bullet. Even though they're hiring me and they're into alternative medicine, and they'll do the work, everyone still wants a magic bullet. And that's my
Speaker 2
You're like, starve yourself for five days, honey.
Speaker 3
For real. Well, yeah. I mean, kinda. If you're like, if you have you've been suppressing eczema with steroids and, and you want a magic bullet, the best thing is gonna be a water diet until Or
Speaker 2
any vaginal stuff. Any, like, yeast infection, bad you know, bacterial vaginosis, burning. I mean, any skin any skin stuff
Speaker 3
Anything. Makes sense. Any chronic disease is it's a lifestyle thing usually. It's usually related to food. So just devoiting of that and letting your and it what it does is eighty percent of our body's energy is is diverted to digestion every day. So we have a certain amount of energy that we wake up with, and most of that is used to digest food. So you take food out of the equation. Now your body can use that energy to heal. And then if you don't need to, like, heal, really, then it starts to really, like, ramp your system up for optimal health. And so it's it's such a a huge therapeutic tool that I think that that everyone should be aware of.
Speaker 2
Okay. So clean up your diet. Fast every now and then. Reset your mind around food. Food is the mood. Let food be thy medicine. Blah blah blah. Okay. What's next?
Speaker 3
Okay. Let's talk about clean home. And this has to do with, like, chemicals and, toxins and stuff like that. So when you talk about clean home, there's a cup there's really, like, what are you cleaning with? What are you using in your home? And then also what your personal hygiene products are. Right? And, anyone who's been in free birth for a while knows that most of us don't wash their hair. Right? Thanks to Ariel. So, you know, and if you when you start looking at how many chemicals are in beauty supplies and products, it's pretty eye opening, especially natural ones like Jason's or Avalon. There's you still turn over the ingredient list, and there's, like, ten ingredients that you can't pronounce. And it's
Speaker 2
Oh my god. And miss Myers?
Speaker 3
Oh, toxic.
Speaker 2
I can't handle it. I can't believe people still use that. Stop using it. The fragrance are so toxic. It was like a level ten on the the dirty app. Do you know that app?
Speaker 3
That's the EWG.
Speaker 2
It's so cool.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It is cool. It is cool. No. Miss Myers is a marketing now here's the thing. They don't have any regulation on this. So they can market that it's healthy and nontoxic, but it isn't. Miss Myers is one of those. It's you don't have to you don't have to have any knowledge in chemicals to smell it and be like, this is a chemical shit storm. You know?
Speaker 2
Some people like that smell. They make them it makes them feel fresh and clean.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. But so yeah. But start looking through your you know, what are you using for hand soap? And then also too, I just had a conversation with a patient. She was saying her hands are so dry. And I said, well, how often do you wash your hands? And she said, fifteen times a day. And I said, fifteen times a day With soap. With soap.
Speaker 2
With soap. Yeah.
Speaker 3
Why are you washing your hands that much? She goes, how much do you wash your hands? And I said, once or twice. She goes, how come you're not washing your hands? And it's clearly just two different ways of thinking. But, you know, if you, if, you know, you're touching raw meat or something, I'll I'll wash them and stuff. But if you but but that's the the the chemicals, when it touches our skin, it messes with the microbiome, with the the natural bacteria on the skin. And then we get dry skin and, you know, we can go into, like, what each chemical does. I don't think we really, like, have the time to do that. But just look at what products you're using and, you know, how clean can you get the products, you know, to
Speaker 2
And fragrant free. Fragrant free. So anything should be free and clear. Right? Like your laundry detergent, you know, whatever. At the very least, it should say free and clear.
Speaker 3
Yeah. You know, laundry detergent is important. And then, you know, so you so not only what you're putting in your body and on top of your body, that's just as important as food. Right? Because our skin is the largest organ in the body, so it absorbs all those chemicals. But then you talk about the house environment too. You know? Candles are a huge source of toxicity. You know, and I don't know how much of this audience is using some of this stuff. I think some of it is is I think most people are kind of starting to to be awakened to this, but, you know, go into an Airbnb and, like, we've talked about this where you would email them, but, like, all those plugins for, like, fresh and clean. You know, one of the most toxic exposures of, one of the highest toxins in our house is actually from the stove and cooking. So making sure that you're using the air vent. Cook outside is ideal. That's how we, like, traditionally always cooked was outside the home, you know, grilling. You know, there's issues with grill. There's issues with everything. You can really pick apart everything, and everything has a
Speaker 2
Oh, like, I it was a big deal for us to invest in cast iron, like a cast iron set and do away with all other pots and pans. And it was a big investment to do a full set of those, but it feels so good.
Speaker 3
Yeah. So, yeah, so what should we be cooking with? Cast iron is great. Stainless steel is great, and glass is great. Those are, like, your pretty much your three things that you wanna cook with. You know, there's there's people there's some technology out there that I just, like, don't trust. Like, I don't trust the healthy nonstick cooking pan still. I just, like, don't trust that it's not off gassing, but there's ways to like, on a nonstick pans, Let's just take eggs, for example. You can use a stainless steel pan and you can put, vinegar in it actually. So first of all, it won't it won't stick onto the pan if it's hot for a certain amount of time. So heat up the pan is what they say. But even then, sometimes it sticks on there. So I just put a little bit of vinegar in it, let it sit, and it, like, comes right off. So you don't really have to buy these, like, not like, the the marketed healthier options for, like, cookware and stuff. You you don't have to buy those those kind of new technology. If you stick to cast iron and glass and yeah. And they last forever. They last forever. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, you know, that's like what we're cooking with was really important, what we're, putting on our body, what is in our air around us, in our house. These are, like, really, really important issues. And it's very overwhelming, Emilee. Like, when people start, like, especially if maybe they're starting to come along with food, but then they, you know, you start looking at your life and you realize, you know, you you hear this information. You're like, oh my god. I got a lot of work to do. And there's two types of personalities, the ones that get rid of everything and just, like, start fresh with nothing. And that might be a slow build up or you just take one thing at a time. Right? You, you know, finish using your Ziploc bags and you switch over to a reusable Ziploc bag for your children, apples, or snacks. I keep on saying apples today. I must want an apple. And and so just take it a step at a time. You know, like, when your toothpaste runs out, if you're not using using an ideal toothpaste, then just switch, you know, the next time you order. So it doesn't have to be a drastic move. It could just be, like, one one thing at a time. And before you know it, you'll you'll be you'll be like, wow. I can't. I'm done. I'm good. I'm good. We're good here. Check.
Speaker 2
Are you ever really done? Are you done?
Speaker 3
No. No. No. I don't think so. I think you always find something
Speaker 2
else. Can.
Speaker 3
I think that, that there's I think there's always more to do and Yeah. And that's okay. You know? You know?
Speaker 2
Okay. So what else? Don't inject your kids, I'll be.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Let me finish with kind of, like, the basis. So the let me finish there's two more with clean. So clean food, clean home, clean water. This is really important too. And so, I've seen a lot of argument on not drinking properly filtered water, but here's the thing. Yes. It takes out the minerals, but if you don't filter your water out and you're on, municipal, like a city water, you're getting tons of toxins, chemicals, fluoride, pharmaceutical residue, VOCs, just so many if you if you look up your city water and you look up what's in the water, I mean there's like hundreds of of substances in there and so when I see especially on social media that you shouldn't drink. Filtered water, I'm just like, wow. This person's really off the mark. Like, this wellness account, maybe we should know I wish to ignore this wellness account, but you have to filter your water. Now the down now there are situations where you don't. Like, are you on city or are you unwell? There's there's not one answer for water because it's so individualized just like everything. So are you on city or are you are you on well? The answer is is you should get it tested. Or if you're on city, you can kind of look up the city report because they have to do those yearly. Well, there's a lot of issues with heavy metals and, like, things like arsenic and stuff. So you would just want to have I don't like to filter out well too much. I just like to make sure that you're taking all the bad stuff out. So putting a good carbon filter on your house is usually sufficient on a well. If you're on city, you're gonna wanna have something a little bit more robust to filter out all of those, chemicals. By the way, wells aren't I shouldn't let wells get off the hook this easy because there's a lot of groundwater contamination issues with with pesticides and stuff like that. And so it is you should the the answer is you should test your water. Mhmm. But with the city water, you're gonna wanna get it filtered. So, and then it do you rent or do you own? Because that's gonna be, like, how much financial money you put into, like, a system that's gonna be a permanent one. But the answer is is you should filter your water. The two best ways to filter your water is distilled in RO. And the reason why are those are gonna be the only methods that take out most of the toxins. So then what you have to do is you can't drink that water. It's dead water. So you have to remineralize it with a good trace mineral. And then you can get fancy and, like, swirl it and vortex it and get, like, the structure back in it and stuff. But, but that it but that and so if you rent, what I suggest is getting one of those gosh. I'm gonna blank on the name. One of those, like, crock pot thing not a crock pot. It's like you you buy, like, a five gallon water. You fill it up at the health food store. Right? You go and get the RO water at the health food store. You, buy trace minerals. You put it in the water. And, natural you wanna match there you can buy a TDS meter on, like, Amazon for, like, ten bucks. And what that's gonna do is, total dissolved solvents is TDS, and you wanna match that as close as you can to a natural spring water. Now natural spring water varies between what minerals are, you know, in it and stuff, but somewhere around, like, one thirty is is is is where you wanna be with the TDS. So you you kind of learn. You may remineralize it, test it, and you get around that mark, and then you have mineralized fresh filtered water. If you Like that. Just like that. No. For real. It is. If you own a home, you put a RO system at the sink, and you can also look at a whole house, water filter that I think is, like, really, that's a really that's one of the best options. There's so many companies that do that, and some of them are scams, so you do wanna do your filter. But but that's what you're gonna wanna do with water. Now if you can't put a whole house water on the the point, the point of where it comes into the house, then then you're gonna wanna look at getting a, shower filter. The only thing that shower filter is gonna really do is is get out chlorine, which is gonna make a big difference in your skin. But it's better than not having it at all.
Speaker 2
Water's such a trip because it if you don't create a life that has access to clean water and prioritize it, it's pretty overwhelming to try to replicate it.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
You know? It's it it was our number one motivating factor of moving to where we moved was water independence and to have, yeah, water independence, period. And then it it just it can't it can't be it's interesting because it's what's actually, like, the most foundational, you know, building block of everything else.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
I mean, if
Speaker 3
you go to the natural man in the village, they showered in, like, the river. You know? That's like they had fresh water to shower and they drank river water. Like, that's what we're used to. And now we're being we're drinking and we're bathing. I didn't get to, like, water bottles and stuff, but, like, those toxic water bottles. Okay. Do you know that most of that water there's a movie. It's old. I don't I don't have Netflix anymore, but it was called Tapped, I think, t a p p e d. And it's about the water industry and, essentially, like, Dasani, I think. That's Coke. Right, Dasani? It's Coke or Pepsi. Essentially, they they fill up those water bottles with tap water. They don't filter it or anything. It's tap water. Now some water bottles are, like, RO'd or, like, you know, filtered properly in clean water. Of course, those are, like, five dollars for, like, a
Speaker 2
Right.
Speaker 3
Bottle, but most of the water bottles, and then they get transported on a truck that's really hot. And so all those chemicals in the plastic are leaking into the water. So that's a big, big issue with those types of water bottles. So I just say forget plastic water bottles unless it's like an emergency or on a road trip and you just need, you know, one. That's fine. That's like more living normal. Yes. Whereas, you know, I see people still buying twenty four packs of
Speaker 2
Oh my god.
Speaker 3
The grocery store. Even in
Speaker 2
most places, you can find a glass water bottle.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Like, if it's an airport or, you know, something like that, but glass and then at the very least, spring water even if it's plastic. But I was gonna say there's that guy, Danny Vitalis, who created that website of where all the natural springs were in America, and you can find the map and find where there is flowing natural springs. And so I've known a lot of people who have their five gallon things, and they've used that map to go fill their water up with living totally unfiltered living spring water that's, you know, just pouring out of the earth. And Yeah. That's pretty cool, and that is available. That map, I don't know. You'd have to Google Danny by the way. Find a spring dot com, I think? Find a spring dot com.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's a super cool resource.
Speaker 2
So cool.
Speaker 3
Okay. So and we kinda touched on this, but I'll just mention it one time. We specifically with this one issue is clean air. The air that that we're breathing continuously is we need it to be clean. It's one of the most toxic things we're exposed to, and, obviously, we can't help the air quality outside of the house, so we really have to focus on the air quality inside the house. But particularly mold. Mold is the biggest issue with air quality. And it you know, open your windows every so often. Let that fresh let it breathe like a living system. Don't continuously keep a closed home and, you know, keep it stuffy. You know, let let the air breathe. Be really, really mindful of mold and water damage. If you have water damage, do everything you can to get it taken care of quickly so that you can prevent mold. Because the truth is is once mold really starts to take over our house, it's most remediations don't work, and it will grow back eventually. And so the mold issue is is and that's, like, something obviously by region, but I live in Arizona, and there's still a mold issue here because they built most of the roofs flat. So it, so if they, you know, have snow or rain, then the water will sit there and then it gets compromised at some point and it starts to leak in. So there's a lot of mold issues around here. I also wanna say this, we all grow up in mold, especially like you, Emilee, in Florida. I grew up in Florida. Like, we definitely, like, grew up in mold. And that's one thing is our terrain, our vitality should be good enough to overcome that. So it shouldn't be a huge worry. Like, I don't worry about mold where I am right now, but my vitality is high. I I'm healthy. I I eat clean food. I drink clean water. So that's not a big of an issue. But if you are in a moldy situation and you're already compromised, you already have, like, an allergenic state, you're already on hyper alert, and then you put yourself into a mold situation, then that's just gonna make your symptoms really flare up. So the mold is a big issue. I would say that, sometimes, you know, I I take cases sometimes. Like, I have a skin, skin case something, you know, right now where the child has eczema, and the mom's like, is it because of mold? Because that's what all her food you know, all those groups say. And I would say, that's the least of my issues right now. This kid's fully vaccinated. Their their diet's a little off. Like, let's get these things in line and see if it clears up before we go to the mold. Because she had a new house. This house was just built six months ago. Like, the chances of her living in mold is really is thin. So, so
Speaker 2
Mold is, like, trending right now? Mold is trending, and then it's become like an identity. Yes.
Speaker 3
Yes. And that's in most of the time, I I I don't take a lot of mold cases because most of the time we get the symptoms better without having to deal with the mold. Although, if there is known water damage in your area and you have blocked spots growing on your wall, that needs to be addressed. But if you're healthy and your symptoms are going away and you feel really good, then and there's no water damage in your house, then I wouldn't be concerned about it, and I wouldn't think that every ailment is caused by mold. So it's it's like it is real. It's a real issue, but it's also being, like, way, way overtalked about, and people identify, and they don't let it go either. Once they've been mold infested, they're
Speaker 2
like They're mold victims.
Speaker 3
They're mold victims. And that's what they say. Either. Yeah. It's crazy. Parasites and molds. That's like how
Speaker 2
Parasites is like the old one though. Now the people who had the parasites now have the mold.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. And maybe they do. Some of them probably do because their susceptibility is so low. Right? Like, the terrain isn't right and so that they they're more susceptible to these outside influences and obviously, the goal with that year to be that year, your terrain is really healthy, your microbiome is really healthy, you as a person are really healthy so you can be put into these chemicals and and it just kind of you can detoxify them correctly. Right? Because we have a natural detoxification process in our body called the liver. And so when you are exposed to these stuff, you should naturally be able to detox them where they don't create symptoms. But if your body's overloaded and we have a known exposure that's not being taken care of, then it could be an issue and it should be addressed. So so it's it's a it's a fine line because, like, literally, every patient that comes on thinks they have mold, and I would say maybe nine out of ten don't. So it it's not as big of an issue as it's being made into as far as, like, actually affecting the health. Okay. Next one. Next one is, you know, I talked about really all of these are just connecting back to, like, the natural human state. Right? Clean water, clean air, clean this is all stuff we used to have too before, like, big chemical and big agro really, like, tainted our society. But part of being a natural man is to be outside in nature. It's one of the foundational things that we need to do to be to be healthy. And I've seen numbers floated around. I've seen, like, three hours a day is a minimum that you should spend outside a day, But that doesn't happen very much for think about Monday through Friday for a normal person who works, like, eight to five. Like, how often do they go outside that whole day?
Speaker 2
I think a lot of people are never outside. Never outside. Like, never. Never. Like, they walk to their cars.
Speaker 3
Right. Even really healthy people that buy organic food and drink clean water, I think that we're missing the mark on this, and we really have to be outside more. You know, get up get get get up early and go for a walk. You know, that could be an hour in the morning and then, you know, spend as much time as you can outside. I think a lot you know, part of this working from home kind of movement that's really going on, it allows that flexibility. So it's really, really nice.
Speaker 2
I mean Awesome.
Speaker 3
On a nice day, you can go work outside on your computer and and be outside.
Speaker 2
We shifted we just took away TV during the week, and it just opened up all this space where, you know, we've gotten into rhythms in the past where we, you know, after dinner chilled, like, with a family show, and then we just stopped that to see what else would happen Yeah. And we were outside.
Speaker 3
Right. Then
Speaker 2
that's Even if it was just, like, laying in the lounge chair and Johnny throwing the football with Sunni, like, nothing interesting. We're just hanging out outside, which I don't know. It's not like, oh, it's so revolutionary. But Right. It it literally took us saying no to this one habit, which has its time and place. I'm not even dogging on it. It's definitely a time and place thing. But in the absence of that being off the table, that's what emerged, and it just feels so good.
Speaker 3
The natural man wants to go outside. You know, it's like you you know what? You sleep inside and then pretty much you lived outside. That's where you did everything. And so like you said, you take away, like, technology like a phone or a TV, and the default is is, well, now what do we do? Like, no one wants to sit inside. We know let's go outside and breathe the fresh air. It's exciting.
Speaker 2
The we've, like, had the sadness in our family because we used to walk all the time when Suny was young, but now she doesn't wanna go on walks. And it we can't she's too little to leave alone. Like
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's
Speaker 2
need to bring her. I mean, well, sometimes we walk on our land and let her stay at home, but, like, you know, if we're gonna leave for an hour, she's too little for that. And so we've been, like, having to get pretty creative about how to get her. I mean, bribes work really well with that, of course, but also just shifting what we call it. Like, I know not to ever call it a walk, but I'll call it, like, a fairy hunt.
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 2
Or, you know, like, let's go pick the newest flower that's out. Like, if I get creative and actually think ahead, I can trick her. But those family walks, though I'm not allowed to call them that,
Speaker 3
are So did when you guys cut out TV, did that help her, like, wanna walk, or does she just wanna be outside?
Speaker 2
No. She doesn't wanna be outside usually. She Well, because, also, to be fair, she spends all day outside, like, at school. So by the time she comes home, yeah, she just, like, kinda wants to cuddle and color color and keep it mellow. But I've been sitting on the screen all day, so I wanna go outside. And so we have to get creative. But the family walks the point is the family walk is hit or miss. Sometimes it's, like, so terrible and, like, Sawyer poops his pants and soon he falls down and hurts her knee and cries and, like, it's just a total shit show. But when it's And
Speaker 3
you know you do it
Speaker 2
those times? You say,
Speaker 3
this was a bad day, but we're gonna try again tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 2
We're gonna try it again because mom and dad liked to freaking walk.
Speaker 3
Kids, that's actually I I have I relate to this a lot. Like, I would exercise in the morning before kids and and before sunrise, and then at night, I would walk for, you know, an hour. And, yeah, with kids, the whole thing gets disrupted. And one So annoying. I mean, when they're easy, you can put them in, you know, your little pouch and stuff. But when they start to get, like, three one thing for my son is, he loves to, like, bike and and scooter and stuff and skateboard so we can that's kind of sometimes he rides his bike while we, like, walk. But it yeah. Kid you really have to be determined to, like, go outside and move your body with kids because you can have every excuse in the world to
Speaker 2
You can't just be the leader.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
You know, that's the thing I noticed is, like, I just have to be the leader. Yeah. Like, if your kid's
Speaker 3
like, I don't wanna go. I'm like, you're three. You don't have a choice. I'm going. You know? Like, you could work.
Speaker 2
You're up against, like, how are you willing to go through the fight? But what I know with her is once we get her out there, she'll she'll shift. Yeah. Anyway but, yes, family walks, anything outside, working outside. I mean, working from home means I can be outside a lot of my day, which is so big.
Speaker 3
Yeah. When you're not on yeah. When you're not, like, recording and stuff, you have to be inside. You know, one thing about being outside too is, like, if your kids are being told by somebody that they have too much energy or they're ADHD or they are having behavior issues, but it's a high likelihood that they're not using enough energy and they're not outside enough. And so if you're like if this is coming up on the radar of your kids, like, the answer is is go outside and take them to a park. Like, let them burn that extra energy off because we're misdiagnosing kids, especially young boys. And I say that because they have a higher, risk of being diagnosed with ADD and HD than girls. But this applies to girls too. If, like, if if you're if any of those diagnosis are coming up on the radar, there's a chances is that they're just not outside playing enough. Go out and make that part of the routine and then see if those symptoms get better because there's a high there's a likelihood that they will.
Speaker 2
And or not sleeping well. Yes. You know?
Speaker 3
Yes. Definitely. Definitely. So, actually, that brings me to my next point is good sleep. We all know we need to sleep. I'm not gonna go into statistics on, like, why we need to sleep. How many hours do you guys sleep a night?
Speaker 2
Oh my god. So much. Yeah. If it's gonna if it's gonna make people really mad. I mean, I sleep, like, ten hours pretty much every night.
Speaker 3
That's great. So that's, like, ten PM to eight AM, something like that?
Speaker 2
Johnny gets eight and I get ten, and that's, like, perfect for us. So we we are in bed lights off by nine in the winter. We have a different flow in the summer, obviously. But in the winter, like, right now, it's November. We are by seven thirty, like, let's start our thing, our nighttime thing. By eight thirty, We're lights out doing our, like, last little ritual. We do highs and lows every night where everyone says they're high and they're low of their day. We're doing that by eight thirty. You I mean, we don't, like, keep track of this. This is just the natural flow. We our kids don't have, like, bedtimes, and we don't actually have that much structure. This is just our flow right now. And then, yeah, we're asleep by nine, and then he's up by five, and I'm up by seven.
Speaker 3
Amazing.
Speaker 2
Seven. What is that? Ten, eleven, twelve?
Speaker 3
Eight. That's ten hours?
Speaker 2
That's ten hours. Yeah.
Speaker 3
Nine to seven. That's amazing.
Speaker 2
That's it's just, like, always how it's been. I need ten hours. I don't do that well on eight. Nine's like, but when I get ten, I'm, like, fucking ready for the day.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. I think that and that number is individual, like you said. Some people can do great on seven. Some people can go do great on ten. Oh my god. Some things I wanna bring up as about sleep. Well, a, just, you know, sleep issues is really, really common. And, I I've seen, like, homeopathy really help, but I've also seen just, like, the vastu of the whole bedroom be really off. And so by vastu, that is the, Ayurvedic version of feng shui. Right? And so, like, the area that we sleep in is really important. So there's, like, some tips on that is, like, airflow is really important when you sleep. So if, you know, you you want you know, so maybe during the day, you open up the windows when you're not in there, especially if it's cold to let that fresh air in. Mhmm. The American Association of Sleep, I'd have to look up, like, the specific thing. But they recommend, like, what temperature in the middle of summer do you put your air condition on to sleep?
Speaker 2
We keep it pretty cold. Yeah. But where we live, we can have windows open, like, two seasons of the year
Speaker 3
That's weird.
Speaker 2
Which I always would choose. Like, right now, we can sleep with our windows open, but we like it really cold.
Speaker 3
Yeah. So the the sleep association basically said that if you have air condition, that it should be, at set at sixty eight. Yeah. And that's, like, really low for some people. Some people I always ask patients that have sleep issues, what do they sleep on?
Speaker 2
Granted, I was haven't it?
Speaker 3
I was in Florida, so our air was running most of the time, which was one reason why we wanted to leave. I'm like, you know, I can about two seasons of the year, we can have the windows open. But most people, like, sleep at, like, seventy four. I've heard patients say seventy six, seventy eight, and I'm like, well, we need to lower that temperature, and maybe we don't need a remedy. You know? Maybe it's just actual the sleep that the environment that you're sleeping in isn't conducive to, like, actually getting the sound sleep. But the vastu of the bed, like, how much stuff is in your bedroom? You know, like, that big bulky furniture that our our mom our parents grew up with and and just, like, you know, not this is not even talking about a dirty room. Like, how like, a lot of people sleep in pretty messy rooms.
Speaker 2
Like laundry piles.
Speaker 3
Laundry piles.
Speaker 2
I can't do it.
Speaker 3
I can't either. I have to clean all even if I have a laundry basket, like, you know, my son throws it everywhere. I'll put it in a pile and put it towards the end of you know, by the wall. So it's at least organized laundry pile. But just, like, if you can't sleep, look at what is going around inside your bedroom. Make your bed every day because there's nothing like getting in fresh sheets at, you know, at night. The direction of your bed is super important. They always recommend they, you know, but I always refer to, like, Ayurveda. That in Ayurveda, the Ayurveda is a super interesting science because it's the only science that told you what how to be in your human body and how to, like, take care of your body to be healthy. Like, a lot of other forms of medicine just teach you how to, like, get rid of, like, your disease or suppress your disease, and naturopathic medicine came from Ayurveda. Some nature paths probably don't know that, but it's true. Like, our our medicine stemmed from, Ayurveda. And the direction of your bed is really important in this, and they say that you should always be sleeping. Your feet should be pointed either west or I'm sorry. Either east or north. And so and you definitely never want your feet pointing south because that is the direction of death. And so, and I've literally had patients where they change their bed configuration and their sleep totally changes. That's a big deal. And so just kinda look and if you don't not directionally, like, sense, like, just put your iPhone, put the compass on and see. Like, what I mean feet, I mean, like like, your head like, you have your head here and your feet. Where are your feet going? Like, where are you looking when you, when you sleep?
Speaker 2
Right. Like, which way are your feet facing?
Speaker 3
Yeah. So I I love sleeping east. I just think that there's something really powerful about waking up to the sun rising or that first light and seeing that. So I no matter where I am, I always put my bed facing east. And if my bedroom isn't conducive to that, then I'll probably, like, sleep in another bedroom and, like, just use the master bedroom for, like, something, I know, like, another playroom or something. But I, like, am so sensitive to the direction of the bed. Interesting. Because to
Speaker 2
me, it yeah. I would I would think, like, the flow of the room is what matters, like, the vibe of how the room is laid out. But I'm gonna find out which way.
Speaker 3
Well, it yeah. I mean, how it's laid out is super important. And Ayurveda goes into some, like you know, there's two they're most the most detailed science ever, and they talk about, you know, like, directions of the house. Like, if you if you if your bedroom's on, like, the southeast versus the northeast. And so, like, you can get, like, more and more in-depth in on, like, the directions and stuff. But, do you know what direction you sleep in?
Speaker 2
He well, wait. What was it? What was the bad way again? South. That's what he said. That's what he said.
Speaker 3
But you guys sleep so good. So
Speaker 2
Don't fix what's not broken. Yeah. He said our feet face mostly south, a bit southwest.
Speaker 3
Okay. So you're more in the southwest? Yeah. If any sleep issues did come up, that would be, like, that would be something I would, like, look at. Another thing with sleep, and and I'm gonna talk more about this, and I might actually just jump into this, is, like, location of a smart meter. Do you know where your do you know what a smart meter is? Mhmm. It's on your house. And what I have found too is that I've had a case one I had a case of a little boy who, like, the mom, he couldn't sleep. And, you know, everything was really great with his family, like food and just consciousness and just like everything she was doing everything right. And so I said, could you do me a favor and locate the smart meter on your house? And so long long story short, the bed where his head was was the wall and then here was the smart meter.
Speaker 2
So he EMFs?
Speaker 3
No. He yeah. And so and and that's my next topic is EMF exposure. So we'll kind of do a crossover. But, smart meters, you know, they used to be analog meters. And so for people who don't know is smart meters are the machine, the device that, like, your electricity goes to that they can measure out how much your electricity using and then, you know, bill you for that. And it used to be analog, and then they went digital. And then they went smart meters, and this was a huge deal, like, around two thousand and fourteen ish. I remember we were signing some, like, petitions and stuff. But, basically, there's two issues with it. It's the amount of EMF that they give off is huge to the to the point where they reported that thyroid disorders, like, starting if you're, like, sleep next to a smart meter, sleep disorders, all kinds of ailments come if you're near a smart meter. So that would be something is to locate where your smart meter is and make sure no one's sleeping there.
Speaker 2
And can't you you can buy something that goes around it. Someone I used to
Speaker 3
know was, like,
Speaker 2
obsessed with those. Yeah. Verdi cage. Yeah.
Speaker 3
So you can buy a Faraday cage if there's nothing you can do. But here's the deal. It's almost illegal for any, electrical company to not take off their smart meter because it wasn't a voluntary opt in. It was like it just happened, so you have to actually opt out. And so I have yet to know of of an electrical company by county or state or whatever that you can't get that removed. So when they remove it, they do put a digital meter. And the hardcore people will say that's not enough in analog, but it's honestly impossible to get an analog unless you like, I had a friend that saved hers from, like, nineteen ninety, so she was able to put that on, which is pretty cool. But that but digital is much better than smart meters. So there's two issues with smart meters. It's the EMF, and it's a privacy issue. And if you want more information on that, there is a documentary called take back your power dot net. That's really important, the net part. It's pretty mind blowing. I would love to rewatch it. It's been, like, several years, but that's the bottom line is they can the amount of information they can get from these devices is beyond it's disgusting.
Speaker 2
But you mean because they're tracking all of the electrical use in your Everything.
Speaker 3
And they can but they but it's not just tracking electrical use because who cares? But they, like, just the the they can they know everything you're doing, everywhere you're walking, every everything. And it's not like all the it's not like the electrical companies are, like, monitoring this. Right? But it's still it's just, like, it's just uneasy knowing that someone could have access to that if they tried.
Speaker 2
So switching to digital is
Speaker 3
So yeah. And, like, in Florida, it was really easy. Like, you could just go into your account, and you'd have to actually, they always make it a little tricky, but you put smart meters in, and you actually opt out, and then it was done. In Arizona, I had to call the company, and, you know, they tell you it's not bad, not bad. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Whatever. And, eventually, I get it off. Now they do make you pay, like, a hundred bucks to get it off, and then some places make you pay, like, five to ten dollars a month because they have to send someone out to re to read the meter. So there is a little bit, you know, like, a little bit of money involved in it, but, and more so than privacy issue is a health issue. It's just you just don't wanna be around it. You don't want your kids playing around it because sometimes it's in the location where your kids are playing. And most importantly, you don't wanna be sleeping next to it or working.
Speaker 2
What's the radius?
Speaker 3
You know, it's pretty it's like, the well, I did take a Geiger meter too at the, like a year ago, and it would pick up on about like ten feet around it. So if your bed is against the wall, I mean, you're talking less than a foot, but I think around five feet is it starts to go down and around ten feet it goes out. Now speaking of this, you know, this is my next topic is EMF and Wi Fi exposure. The the thing that really went the highest on the Geiger meter is guess what it is in the house?
Speaker 2
The microwave.
Speaker 3
That's a good guess, but, no, it wasn't. It was the Wi Fi. It was the router. And so, obviously, like, that's not ideal. Right? Because we need Wi Fi. I'm not saying, like, don't get on the Internet. But what I'm saying is be, like, conscious conscious of where you're placing it. Is the Wi Fi I've I've I've heard people putting their box under their bed. Like, that's insane. The best is get it away from where everyone sleeps and and, you know, have the where is your box? Do you know?
Speaker 2
Well, we have Eero. Do you know what that is? So it's like it's well, this sounds terrible, but it's not in our bedroom. But the Eero is, like, several hubs so that it's equally as powerful throughout our whole property.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Speaker 2
So there's not, like, one router. Yeah. It's spread out. But one's in his office. I have one here in my office, and one's in our living room, and one's in our garage.
Speaker 3
Okay. But just not I think I think the most important thing is this
Speaker 2
We, like, turn our phones off at night.
Speaker 3
Yeah. No. That's what I was gonna get to is the most important most practical thing you need to do is, is not have it where you're sleeping or unplug your Wi Fi. I don't know if you can I'm sure you can unplug it, but unplug it at night. And the reason why is if you could get seven to eight to nine hours of not having a constant, emitting device on your system, it allows your body to get into that human resonance, that, like, natural, like, human resonance, and we're not being bombarded. Because because every day, you know, we're on computers, we're on phones, and, yeah, you can't help that, but you can at least turn it off while you sleep. One idea that, one idea I tell patients is to put a timer on it, like a Christmas timer so that it turns off at midnight. And
Speaker 2
We used to have that, but that well, particularly for me, I'm so often on call. Yeah. And also here, there's no, phone service. Everything is Wi Fi calling, and so it's just not an option to not have my phone on. And so, like, right now, I'm off call, so I turn my phone off at night. But if I'm on call, then that is what it is. And I actually have to sleep with it, like, near me, so I hear it. So that's just been something I accept with the territory.
Speaker 3
There's some situations where you can't like, I have a another mom that like, the husband's up all night, like, doing his thing, and there's no way he's gonna want the Internet turned off. Like, that's fine. But I say a majority of the people aren't on call with patients.
Speaker 2
Totally. Of course. Or
Speaker 3
and and and you can easily just set your Wi Fi off. And I say from, like, midnight to five AM when you know no one's on it. That's, like, that at least gives you five minutes. You know? Mhmm. And if if you can't have that, then you look at other exposures, which is like a cell phone. You know? Like and I think most people have whole have heard this, but, like, talk on speakerphone if you can. If you're gonna use, headsets, like I know they're trendy, but the the pods are the worst thing ever. It's just like Bluetooth in your ears. Like, do a hardwire from your phone to use the hardwire. Don't put your phone on your body at anywhere. Always keep it off you, so don't put it in your pockets, especially if you're trying to get pregnant, or, you know, in in your fertile phase of life. And then this is important for men too because it it seriously impacts, like, sperm quality, just at spawn sperm shape, everything. So the it's a big deal because we can't get away from it, and nor do I want to go back to eighteen hundred where we don't have this technology because these devices really make our life easy. Right? Like, I don't like, you don't have to go to work nine to five, and and we we we have so much benefit from these these you know, we can work from our phones, but we just have to use them consciously.
Speaker 2
I'm texting my husband as we're doing them. He just texted me, are we doing an EMF cleanse? Because I'm just sending him, I'm like, we have to switch from smart meter to digital. We have to start sleeping with our phones out of our room. You have to stop using the earbuds. Your phone can't be in your pocket ever again.
Speaker 3
Especially if you're trying to have another baby. Maybe it's like after you guys are done having babies, it's like, alright. You can you can get prostate cancer if you want.
Speaker 2
I never put my phone in my pocket. I would never use earbuds.
Speaker 3
But a lot of people do, and they don't know. You know? And so I think it's just using it consciously. It's like, for instance, this is real practical thing. I had a patient for a long time. Healthy, healthy, healthy, LDL. All of a sudden, she ran labs. TSH was through the roof, and her thyroid's like, woah. What happened? Like, you're doing everything right. Usually, if I have thyroid cases, like, there's a lot to fix. So So I started asking about her, like, does she have a smart meter? Where and so she was doing everything wrong. She was using the pod. She had an Apple Watch. She keeps her cell phone, like, on her body. And, and, like, even, like, she would do an Apple Watch. And I was like, well, why you why you exercising with an Apple Watch? And she would be like, because it directions. I I knew and I was like, well, you need directions the first time you go on a new walk, but after that, you don't need directions anymore. So we started really, like, tearing apart,
Speaker 2
like, your energy. Shit. What? People just love that shit.
Speaker 3
They they love the technology. But then also so here's what happened. She got rid of all that stuff. I I gave her some stuff to kind of, like, promote her body to heal, and her thyroid fell into complete range. And I know that if I had just given her medicine but didn't address these issues, then it wouldn't have been as effective. But these the EMF particularly is really sensitive to the thyroid. Think about this. This is our only organ that's not in our, like, protected by our internal organs. So it's like our organ is, like, just floating around in space. So it's constantly being bombarded. We wonder why, you know, Synthroid is thyroid medication. It's the number one prescribed medication in the United States. So thyroid issues are really big deal, and we know there's been if you do a Google search on thyroid, you know, thyroid disease or cancer and EMF, I mean, you're gonna get tons and tons of information. So this information's out there. We just have to make it, like, more more practical for people. So like you said, just don't touch it. Don't wear eye don't wear the pods. Yeah. Johnny's still wearing pods?
Speaker 2
He wasn't, and we I bought him, like, the
Speaker 3
The wire.
Speaker 2
Like, doctor Mercola has some that are, like, whatever. Yeah. The wire. And then he went back to it recently because when he's cooking, he listens to something usually, you know, and is, like, moving all around.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean, same too. We have a speaker that we do.
Speaker 2
Same thing.
Speaker 3
My husband was, like, using the Bluetooth, you know, from the phone on the speaker, and they're beyond the speaker. So it wasn't like if a Bluetooth device like, say you're, like, you have a device you have your your phone and you have your pods and it's a Bluetooth connection. So, like, anything in between it is that signal's going to. So if your phone is, like, on the speaker and it's not, like, it's not really being the signal isn't really going out, well, that's fine. But I still got on to my husband. I'm like, use the aux cord. Hello? Right. And so, you know, and so, like, we have a portable speaker that if we're cooking or something, you know, a Bose speaker, well, I just use an aux cord and plug in. I had to buy, you know, it the new cell phones, they don't have the the adapters are different, so I had to buy the lightning adapters so I could use the aux. They make it really hard to, like, be healthy, but you just have to know, like, what to do. So that's another solution for Johnny is just to have the speaker near him when he's cooking.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm thinking we have, like, full surround like, house surround sound Sonos that works off of Bluetooth on our phones. And that might be that might
Speaker 3
be, like so make a list you know, not maybe not you, but make a list of for people listening of, like, what you can't change, but what you can't because you'll find that there is a lot that you can change for the sleep that you can't. But the smart meter thing, I think, is one of the most important things. So look into that if if you do and and request for them to put a digital meter back on.
Speaker 2
Thankfully, mine's in my garage. Yes. That's a great big car.
Speaker 3
If you're building a house, put it on the garage. Unless people turn their, you know, garages into, like, living rooms and gyms and stuff. But I love the old houses where they used to have the electrical boxes, like, at the the start of the driveway. I love that concept, like, far away. But, I love Teslas, and I love, like, I love the idea of, like, some of those cars, but I I rode in one one time, and I, like, felt like my nerve I felt like I was getting zapped. Like, you're you're you're riding on one of the biggest Wi Fi, like, machines there is. Right? And it's, like, the whole car. So
Speaker 2
Creepy.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It it can be creepy. I rode in one one time, and I felt like I was being bombarded. I was like, I don't really like this feeling. So I couldn't imagine doing one on a, like, a road trip or anything. But, okay. Next topic?
Speaker 2
Mhmm. Okay.
Speaker 3
So I think we'll finish this with, you know, we kind of summarizing, like, the solutions really is just to be as natural as possible, eat clean food, drink clean water, surround yourself in air, you know, natural air, clean air. Don't have too much EMF, like, bombarding your system all the time. But the last one, obviously, is to use alternative medicine. And I I'm gonna say when possible, but I have yet to find a time when I, like, needed to reach out to allopathic medicine because when you know what you're doing, you don't have to treat a lot of things that you know, you always hear the excuse. Oh, I love homeopathy, but sometimes I need a little allopathic medicine. And I would say that sometimes is, like, pretty narrow. Usually, the only time I refer a patient out is ortho orthopedics. Like, if a kid you know, I had a case the other day where the kid fell down some stairs And, yes, we got homeopathy on board right away, but the kid, it wasn't relieving it like I should. And I knew something was, oh, I know he's one years old. He's so cute. Oh. And he did. He ended up breaking, like, his, tibia, I think. And so he's in, like, a little cast, but I, you know, I had to tell the mom. The mom didn't like allopathic medicine. I'm like, like, look. This is why we love, like, orthopedic surgeons. They don't care about vaccines. They don't care about anything like that. You they just want you especially in a young kid, they just wanna make sure that you don't wanna, growth is so important, you know, in, like, development. And if you don't if you leave an injury, like, that's like, a broken bone that's not put back into place, that could have serious repercussions for the
Speaker 2
right time.
Speaker 3
And so that excuse aside, like, use alternative medicine as your lifestyle, meaning, in a good segue into this is, like, what is an alternative to vaccines? Well, the real answer is is don't get any. Right? And be healthy and create an environment where you're not susceptible to getting disease. Right? Like, we talked about this, like, terrain type of theory where you you keep your microbiome and your terrain is so healthy that you can be in a room with everyone who has a cough and not get the cough yourself because your vitality is so high. You didn't
Speaker 2
get it. If you believe coughs are contagious.
Speaker 3
Right. Right.
Speaker 2
Which I do not.
Speaker 3
Right. Well, this is like it's it's yes. That's that is true. And so will this so and when you have that thought, homeoprolact prophylaxis isn't for you. Right? Because then you don't believe in the contagion theory. But homeo so homeoprophylaxis is it's a middle ground between no vaccines and vaccines. Okay? And if you ask what I do personally, I don't do vaccines because I just believe in being healthy. But I have had patients where it's a middle road. Maybe they're too scared to not vaccinate, but they don't wanna vaccinate. Or sometimes I've even had it where the husband really wants them to vaccinate and they don't, and the husband agrees to homeopathic prophylaxis.
Speaker 2
So you're so you're saying it's the home birth with a medical midwife?
Speaker 3
Yes. And like I said, I didn't I don't choose that option. I don't I don't actually use homeopathic prophylaxis on my kids. Maybe there would be a situation where I would let's say, if legitly Ebola was going around, maybe I would use homeopathic prolaxes there because that's like a really nasty disease. But that's a pretty obscure, like, kinda thought. So but, yes, it is. Essentially, it's it it is. It but in a way, it's not too because what homeopathic prolaxes is it's taking it's just like vaccines where you take the information from the bug and you put it in a minute dose to give your body, like, the blueprint, the memory, and then the vaccines, like, the antibodies. But in home in homeopathic prophylaxis, it's more of like a blueprint that you give the body the information so that it has the information to, like, make the antibodies so that if you come in contact with the disease, you won't get it because that information's already there. And what's nice about homeopathy is there's no other added ingredients like aluminum and stuff and kidney cells and toxic ingredients. So you're giving your body the information, but you're, but you're not injecting them with a bunch of poisons. And so, but there is, like, there was a study done. It's really hard to get studies done on prophylaxis because, I mean, we're dealing with, like, vaccines and big pharma here. But there was a study done in Cuba where, I'm sorry. Like, let me go back to the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen where, like, there was, like, something like a crazy like, a fifty percent mortality rate. Right? So it'd be fun to break apart that with a terrain theory. I'm not the person to do that, but that would be interesting. And what they found was there's a fifty percent mortality rate, but the people that took the homeopathic genus epidemic is the remedy that matched those symptoms at that time had a ninety percent protection rate. So the people that didn't had a fifty percent protection rate where fifty percent of them died. So there and there's there's there's one in Cuba with leprosy. There's enough of there's enough of them out there. Enough of these, like, studies that are in homeopathic literature where the people the group that got the homeopathic prophylaxis did not get the disease. So it's just a good option that most that people need to be aware is out there. And, like, the
Speaker 2
The thing I feel confused on is, but all these uninjected kids aren't getting these diseases either.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. So
Speaker 2
So we could
Speaker 3
but, I mean, I do have unvaccinated kids get whooping cough. I mean, like, really bad coughs go around or pneumonia cockles or stuff that they are
Speaker 2
I meant, like I didn't yeah. Let me choose my words more carefully. Of course, there will be cases, but, I mean, on some sort of mass scale.
Speaker 3
Yeah. No. I mean, the theory is is vaccines took away mumps and measles and all this, but it landed us with a a big chronic disease epidemic from the vaccines themselves. I don't necessarily think vaccines took away those illnesses. Like, if you look at polio, that's the argument everyone or always makes, with polio. But the the time when they started really cleaning up sanitation and stuff is obvious that it was already on a decline. And then we have a vaccine got introduced that it was, like, already, like, mostly done. So everyone will say, well, it cured polio, but it really didn't. Really sanitation and and and that stuff did. But, like, let's say, let me see if a case went you know, like, if let me give you an example where I might use it. If I was going on a trip to Hawaii and I know whooping cough is going around and I really want didn't want my kids to get sick, maybe I would dose them with a whooping cough no sewed. Why not? Right? It would make if I don't want them to get sick.
Speaker 2
So you believe in contagion? That's what that means, what you just said. Right?
Speaker 3
That that is what that means. I think that you it's it is It's a it's such a this is such a hot topic, and I'm honestly not the person to discuss terrain theory versus contagion because
Speaker 2
We can cut it out. I'm just curious.
Speaker 3
No. No. I don't wanna cut it out.
Speaker 2
Because you I mean, the language you use does say that you believe that, like, that your son could show up in Hawaii and breathe in whooping cough and then get it. Right? That's contagion.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Right.
Speaker 2
But, like, another part of you doesn't believe that.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Right. Well, then guess, it's not so much what I believe. Right? Because I probably would not I wouldn't dose my kid with whooping cough if
Speaker 2
But you did that. What? That's what I said that you would.
Speaker 3
Well, no. Okay. So when I'm talking about, like, patience because, like, the thing is is, like,
Speaker 2
Well, I get that you're monitoring you're helping people moderate their own fear and their own Yes. I understand that. But what about you? Because you practice what you believe. Right?
Speaker 3
Right. So well, I'm pretty hardcore. Well, listen, Emilee. I'm pretty hardcore, and what I've learned is that most people aren't as hardcore as I am. So what I would do probably isn't what most of my patients would do. Mhmm. And I used to kind of have this attitude, well, well, they should do that. Like, that's what it should be. But
Speaker 2
So is the homeopathy prophylaxis just a ruse then to just satiate their little fear brains? Ultimately? Yes?
Speaker 3
I don't think so. Because if if I have a patient where they aren't living the healthiest lifestyle, well, then then is their susceptibility so low that they can get the disease? Yes. I mean
Speaker 2
What do you mean get? What do you mean get?
Speaker 3
I mean, you put your kid in school, and they come down with a cough because other kids have the cough. Right?
Speaker 2
I mean, I don't see it that way at all. So I'm just kind of exploring. Yeah. I your your if that's what you think. Yeah. Well, I don't think there a cough is some, like, little naughty little naughty germ floating around that then you you, like, inhale, and then it lives inside of you. And now now you have it. Yeah. That's not why kids get sick.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I guess, in a way, I don't fully subscribe to terrain, but I do like, I I'm kind of I'm not I don't think about this a lot, honestly, because how I let me just say how I see it instead of trying to prove myself to fit in a box of of the terrain versus contingent theory. Let me see how I see it. Is that when your susceptibility is is is high, meaning you don't take care of yourself and your immunity is low and you eat a toxic diet and you eat processed foods.
Speaker 2
And you're vulnerable.
Speaker 3
You're more vulnerable. And that's kind of what I see.
Speaker 2
But vulnerable to what? Well
Speaker 3
To your
Speaker 2
own to your own self expression of toxification? Right? Like, to your own or is it to catching? Like, to your
Speaker 3
own To your own because ultimately, when kids get sick, there's, like, usually, like, a stressor that happens. Right? So it's almost a breakdown inside instead of, like, you're catching something. And that's where I side more with the terrain. It's not it's an internal breakdown of why your body gets the disease versus being, like, it's, like, catching something. Right?
Speaker 2
But then how would you go to school and get to the top?
Speaker 3
If you if you eat a a really bad diet and you're and you're you have a really stressful life, like your kid is in stress because the parents are always arguing or something, those kids are gonna go to school and get the cough.
Speaker 2
So It has nothing to do with school.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Oh, well, I'm just saying, like, at the park, anywhere where there's tons like, let's say it's cold into the city
Speaker 2
my point is that school gets blamed, other kids get blamed, the park gets blamed, and no one's actually looking at the shitty parents who are emotionally neglecting their kid.
Speaker 3
Right. Right. Right.
Speaker 2
That's what the cops expressed. Interesting.
Speaker 3
I mean, yeah. It's super interesting. For instance, I know, like, my son doesn't get sick that often, but the last three or four times he got sick, it wasn't because he went to the park and got sick, like, and coughed on something. There's been plenty of times where kids have, like, coughed on him Exactly. And he doesn't get sick. Right? But when he does get sick, it's when he is more emotional or maybe he has an anger outburst or something, and maybe something is going around. And because his immune system is so down from the stress or something that that he is more susceptible to something that set that because if the cough
Speaker 2
saying something going around, so that's Right.
Speaker 3
Right. Because would he have gotten a cough if he hadn't been coughed on? Right. He could like, he my son, he could have a behavior outburst, like, once a week. He doesn't get sick once a week. Right? But if there is something going around and he is having a bad day I I mean, he eats pretty good, so that's never an issue. But if you you know, when some emotions happen and then it's like, woah. He just got a cough. Where did this come from? Right? It's never like he gets a cough by himself. It's always be
Speaker 2
Yeah. I guess I I like, it doesn't ever occur to me to to wonder where it came from. It's like it is only the body expressing itself. You know? Like and and, you know, I'm not I'm certainly not an expert on any of the g and m g and m stuff, but my very peripheral understanding is that the body around another body expressing similar symptoms can be in resonance with the the energetic body or whatever the right term is of learning how to shed or learning how to detoxify and be in resonance with that and, like, oh, like, I'm gonna try that too. This is reductive. Obviously, I'm gonna totally butcher this explanation.
Speaker 3
But, you
Speaker 2
know Just like when a kid gets a fever, it's like they didn't catch a fever. We know that a fever is a healing, you know, process for the body.
Speaker 3
So understand about terrain people, and I I get this, is the energy. Like, it's the there's something in the field, the resonance that you like, we can't deny that when you have multiple kids at home, it's sometimes or, like, in a family and an illness will go through the the the kids. Right? And it is
Speaker 2
But unless it's going through everyone, then it doesn't stand.
Speaker 3
Right. But
Speaker 2
how could it be that, like, two of us get sick and not all four of us?
Speaker 3
Well, this is why I kind of don't really talk about terrain versus, you know, contagion. I just say to talk about vitality and susceptibility to disease because it doesn't really make sense to me either that, you can have two kids and they're in resonance with each other, so they both get the fever. Like, how does that like, how does
Speaker 2
But I know with my kids and other kids I've been close to, it's never identical cases. Like, they will they will and you know that, obviously, because
Speaker 3
you work
Speaker 2
so much with kids. There's always unique expressions of symptoms. Right? Like Yeah. Even this is a dumb example, but when Johnny and I went through the, like, keto flu, like, we had different expressions of what our bodies were kind of going through the same process. We were moving into ketosis and moving and we were detoxifying, but it wasn't identical because we're two different people.
Speaker 3
No. You can have two kids with, like, a they're sleep in the same room, and they'll they'll get different remedies because their their cough is, like, completely different.
Speaker 2
Well, that's my point.
Speaker 3
Well, I guess, I kind of when when the terrain theory really you know, you really like, I got really behind that, but then I really couldn't answer. And to me, just there in resonance with each other is why when an illness comes in a family, it can go through the whole family or it can go through two or three of them. Like and I couldn't really say, well, this kid was in resonance with it or you know? And I couldn't really like, that just didn't really that didn't really resonate either.
Speaker 2
There was a there was a situation a couple years ago at MRF where a child, kind of in our extended staff crew, a child had, the the expressions of what seemed like hand, foot, mouth. And there was one family here who was really scared of getting it, and they talked a lot about it, and they avoided anyone who had seen them. They were really scared. And of, like, twelve families that were all, I'll use the word exposed here for this story. I don't believe in that, but they were all around the hand, foot, mouth kid. The only family that replicated those same symptoms was the scared family.
Speaker 3
Yeah. The fear the fear is pretty
Speaker 2
thought that was, like, very interesting because it didn't even cross my like, I went to dinner with them. I held the kid. Like, I just don't it doesn't occur to me that that it could like, if there's, like, like, the other day k. I'm just skipping around. But the other day, I ran into this dog, on the adjoining land to my land who has a giant tumor on its head. It's super gross. And the tumor's, like, open. It's so gnarly, and it's, like, bloody and open. It's so disgusting. And so it came the dog came near me to, like, check me out in my golf cart, and I saw it. And my natural reaction was to recoil, You know? And, like, under no circumstances like, my my animal body is, like, under no circumstances should I let that touch me. Not because I think I'm gonna catch something,
Speaker 4
but because it's fucking gross.
Speaker 2
You know? And so, like, if I saw a child or a human of any age with, like, open sores all over their body, unless it was my own children, of course, I'd be like, yeah. I'm good. You know? Like, if their mom has it, they have it. But it's Yeah. It's not a yeah. I've really just unpacked this since COVID, and, like, I don't have the best words to
Speaker 3
describe it.
Speaker 2
Real, and what are you saying? Is real, and I don't have it.
Speaker 3
In mind too, you can manifest it. Like, that's for sure.
Speaker 2
And that's the resonance. That's the point, is resonance is and, again, like, I know people could do this more justice than me, but Yeah. Same. It's no it's not lost on me that the one family who was openly afraid was the one family that that had those symptoms and went through that process. Though they all had different they got it on different places of their body, they still had unique expressions of it. Anyway
Speaker 3
Yeah. No. It's it's it's a really interesting con it's a it's a conversation that you could just talk about forever because I I treated a ton of COVID patients. Right? Like, they did have a cough rather than they had COVID. I don't know. I didn't test them. But I had no
Speaker 2
Nor would a test mean shit, Jen. Yeah. Well, I I mean Come on.
Speaker 3
Obviously. Trust me. Most of my patients didn't get tested just because we are in line. But, yeah, the tests are, like, mostly false false positives. But, like, I don't ever worry I'm gonna get sick or if, like, if someone coughs on me, like, we I don't worry about that either. You know? But there is there is a I guess I had one time someone we were talking about this and they're like, well, how do you explain it when it goes through the family? But what if, like, you're not fearful, but you catch it you get you get the cold anyway. You get the cough.
Speaker 2
But you don't get the cold. Your body has decided for its own intelligent reasons that it is time to move through a healing process.
Speaker 5
Mhmm.
Speaker 2
You don't get a cold. Like, you don't you don't catch that. I mean Right. The term
Speaker 3
catch, but you do get sick.
Speaker 2
You do have something. Yes. It is your unique expression. Why is it happening at the exact same time? Well, actually, a lot of times it happens afterwards. There's also it all of it happens. You know, like, we if we were to look at and you you obviously are a good resource for this. If you were to look at several families over the course of several years, I'll just speak for mine specifically. We've never all gone down at the same time. Like, like, you know, one of the kids will express something, and then after, like, two days, the other kid will express something.
Speaker 3
Mhmm.
Speaker 2
And then I might feel a little funky for a couple days, and then Johnny usually is the last one, and he'll bring up the or the opposite. He'll do he'll go through something first, and then I will, and then one of our kids will, and maybe the other kid doesn't. And to me, that does not mean we're passing something to each other. It's more like we are we are in a living organism as as, like, a group of trees, you know, that share roots. Like, our energetic fields are so intertwined with each other that perhaps, we are giving each other's energetic bodies, like, permission and showing each other how to move through healing processes. You know? Because it's also we would have to totally reframe that having these symptoms isn't bad. Right? Like, all of that. Like, it's not even really correct to use terms like being sick. Yeah. You know? Like, that doesn't mean to
Speaker 3
be argue that you really don't wanna treat this. Right? Because your body's naturally cleansing itself and and
Speaker 2
Well, I think then you get into the weeds around what does it mean to treat. And, of course, like, supporting something is different than suppressing something. Right? So with how you support my family, we use the word treat, but
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
It's it's not ibuprofen. It's not, you know, Tylenol. You're not suppressing. You you you right. So, I mean, to support something to move through your body isn't I mean, it's magical in a way, but it's also not like
Speaker 3
a a
Speaker 2
a Band Aid. Mhmm. It's a totally different consciousness to go how can I support this to happen with also with herbs and other stuff?
Speaker 3
Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 2
But it is a real consciousness shift. And I what I'm hearing in what you're saying and and maybe, admittedly, a bit of your confusion around it is that you have your own sense of truth and and how you run things in your family, but you also work with a population who's still very committed to contagion theory. And so you're, like, trying to straddle that and figure that out.
Speaker 3
Yeah. And I would say that, I don't really figure that. I I don't know if I figure that out. It's just that, you know, I see where people are, and it's like, in the end of the day, what does the parents want? They just want their kids to get better. Right? They just want their their cough to get better and stuff. And so we really just focus on getting the cough better. I don't talk to the parent about, well, this isn't a you know, I'll have parents say, like, oh, it's going through the family, and I don't really go into, like, well, it's not a you know, we don't believe in contagious. Right? You know? I don't I just don't go into that anymore. Maybe I should, but, I think I do see most of my patients are more conscious and aware and and actually, like, will ask about this stuff. But at the same time, they just they're they're hiring me because their daughter has a bad cough, and they want me to take their homeopathic case and find a remedy and get get their cough gone. You know?
Speaker 2
Well, they're they're replacing you with an allopathic doctor Yeah. In their minds, you know, whereas you're actually, you know, have a much wider lens and are are actually from quite a different consciousness paradigm, but you're still serving people in that paradigm
Speaker 3
Yeah. Which is interesting. Yeah. We we might need to, maybe my husband should come on and and really dice out the terrain theory versus the contingency.
Speaker 2
Where does he land on all that?
Speaker 3
He's just better at, like, talking about those types of issues. You know? Like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2
Think you, like, catch the boogeyman out there?
Speaker 3
No. No. We we don't think you catch anything, like, as a that's not something that we think of either, but the vitality of the system is important. And, it's I'd have to ask him. You'd have to ask him honestly where he is at that because it is like we've talked about it a lot a lot, and it's it is easy in theory to stand behind one of the concepts. Right? But then when you, like, when you
Speaker 2
But I don't think it's against the vitality piece. Like, I think I think let's use the word illness or sickness. Like, with someone who is super healthy and vital, navigating what would then be very rare, depletions of the system or, you know, like, hits, like, immune system depletion feels like, what's the right word? Like, just an expression of being alive in the body just, like, moving through stuff. Whereas you have, like, chronically ill people. You have people who get sick all the time. People who, you know, have constant, whatever. Yeah. All sorts of stuff. All sorts of issues. And so we're those are, like, two pretty different, animals. Right?
Speaker 3
Because In homee in homeopathy, they will the the old school homeopath will say that an acute illness is actually a cleansing effect
Speaker 2
Sure.
Speaker 3
Of the body. And so that's actually, like, why like, that would be, like, more like you when we fall ill, it's a a chance for our body to basically purge the toxins from the system. And actually, in really chronically sick people, you'll hear this a lot, is they say, I've I haven't gotten sick in so long. Right? They haven't gotten a cold or a fever or, like, anything. And most a lot of adults don't get fevers, but and it's like and so you're too sick to mount an or, an immune response to actually to actually cleanse yourself. Like, the innate homeopath, like, we don't see acute illness is a bad thing. We see it as a cleansing effect. And in the end, you're gonna get, like, an upgrade in your immune system. You know? It's all very interesting. It is it is. It's really interesting topic. And this is just like an acute type of case we're talking about. But I would say going back to just, like, your preferred medicine is using, like, obviously, herbal medicine. Supplementation can be handy if you're you're devoid of some nutrients. But, but really, like, homeopathy is when you're talking about living in a new paradigm, like, paradigm, homeopathy really becomes like the main medicine that you'll use. Like if you do have a cough or if you're struggling with thyroid issues or you have gut issues, like homeopathy can really help and there was a study done all the in India. All the studies on homeopathy are done in India because it's just they they embrace the medicine so well, but they're they actually did a study on they did a twenty four month study on conventional kids and kids that were raised with homeopathy, and this is for any ailment that was you know, that comes up in the first two years. And the the the conclusion was is the homeopathic children were healthier, like, just because they weren't being suppressed. They, you know and so homeopathy doesn't suppress. It basically you match the symptoms of you know, let's say you have a cough or, you know, you match the exact symptoms of that cough to, remedy that when it that basically was proved that in dilute forms, it will cure those symptoms and that in in in crude forms, it will cause those symptoms. And so homeopathy, you know, it has a lot of kids that are raised using homeopathic medicine tend to be healthier, like, period. And homeopathy is is one of the most controversial medicines out there. Like, people hate homeopathy, who hate homeopathy. And it's really it's a it's a it's a it's a pretty big concept to wrap your mind around because these substances in these vials, you know, Avogadro's number is ten to the negative twenty three. So you have, like, a decimal point, and then you have twenty three zeros ahead of it. That is so if anything over Avogadro's number is considered their substance in it, right, well, these homeopathic remedies are way beyond Avogadro's number. And so into, like, the scientific mind, there's, like, nothing in that. But we know that it does something. We know that if you have symptoms and you can match the remedy correctly, that it's like poof, your symptoms go away. And you've you've had experience with that, and I've definitely, like, seen that a ton. It is a pretty profound system of medicine that I think Do
Speaker 2
you think do you think it's possible that it's simply because the mind believes it?
Speaker 3
No. No. I I've seen personally, I've just seen too many cases where you get the remedy right and symptoms are gone within minutes. But, like, okay. So let's take a case. You know, I can take it. Let me think of a case where, like, I had an allergy case the other week. Right? And, you know, the person believes in homeopathy, like, fully. Right? That's why they call me. But we tried two or three remedies before that. And if it was just a placebo effect, those remedies could have worked. But it wasn't until I got the correct remedy on remedy three or four that and then as soon as I got the correct remedy within an hour, their symptoms are like, they're just overall feeling better. And then within a day, like, all their symptoms are gone and they've been struggling with this for, like, three or four weeks. Like, you can't really contribute that to placebo. Sometimes you can. Like, you know and I think placebo can be powerful. They've done, like, plenty of studies on placebo where it you give someone anything you give, you know, will help them because they're getting attention and and whatnot. But there's been too many times where I've given a remedy, you know, and this is why I like my patients to have a kit because oftentimes, maybe I'm off the mark or sometimes the patient didn't give me enough information. They weren't observant enough to give me the right case. Right? So we start with a couple remedies, and if it was a placebo effect, they would have reacted to the remedies, the first remedies, but it's not until I get the actual remedy. And sometimes it's been, like, five or six down the line. And as soon as I can get the right symptom and the right remedy, that that it, like, goes away quickly. So I just don't think it's placebo effect. I've just seen too many cases. But when you're but the the take home message with homeopathy is when you're looking to, be, like, to be healthy and to, you know, and to to thrive in this world, like, looking to alternative medicine to treat your symptoms and ailments. And also to just, like, boost your system, like, with herbs and and just immune you know, just like reishi and tonic herbs just to increase the vitality of the system is to use alternative medicine. And when you have a specific symptom, that that you need to cure, that's when you'll look to homeopathy.
Speaker 2
Mhmm. Yeah. I think so much of this is changing your perspective.
Speaker 3
Right? Because the
Speaker 2
willingness to, like, actually be with your body, be with your symptoms, which I'm not pretending. I do that all the time. Sometimes I'm like, give me that ibuprofen. I am not willing to
Speaker 3
do that. Patients that are, like, super conscious, and they're like, I looked up German new medicine. This isn't it. Like, can you just give me a remedy? You know? And so it's like you want to try and you want to, like, you want to have this ideal that you can just cure it just by sitting there and, like, being in that resonance. And sometimes you just need a little bit more. And I guess when you do need a little bit more, you should know who to call. Right? That's, like, the Well,
Speaker 2
I don't know if you need it. Everything is just a choice. It's all a buffet of your own consciousness and and get to choose if you're willing to sit in it and if you're not. You know? I mean, I'm what I'm pointing out is when I take ibuprofen, I am consciously choosing cognitive dissonance, really. I'm consciously choosing to suppress, ignore, not get the messages and learning that's here, you know, for me. Yeah. And I've also to
Speaker 3
be fair, like, I've also seen people that are, like, way into getting the message. Right? And it's like they suffer so much trying to get the the message into, like, to be cured. And there that's also, like, well, why wouldn't you just get a homeopath on board to take your case and to get cured? Because, like, you're telling me you're waiting for the message, and it's, like, been six months, and you're still really sick. You know? And so
Speaker 2
Yeah. But that might be I mean, I've also seen that be the thing that
Speaker 3
That's what they need. Totally.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Totally. So
Speaker 3
I'll leave it with this. I, there's a the his name is George Vasulcas. He's one of the best. He's actually still living in the best one of the best homeopaths in the world. And he'll say that if if you hear the word homeopathy, you're lucky because it's basically what his point is is homeo you don't choose homeopathy. Homeopathy chooses you. And most of the people that hear about it, they have a huge issue with it or it just goes in one ear and out the other. Right? And if you've ever shared homeopathy with someone, you you you know what that means. They just, like, do yeah. Whatever. But if you have clutched onto it and it resonates with you, then, then it's chosen you. And I think that's really cool. So we'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's how I feel about Ayahuasca.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Same.
Speaker 2
You know? Probably a lot of stuff is like that. That's powerful medicine.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Well, I love you.
Speaker 3
Same. Love you too.
Speaker 2
Love you and my life and all that you bring. And, yeah, thank you for taking the time to share some of your wisdom.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Definitely. Always great.
Speaker 4
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Speaker 5
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