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Into the wild, I'm going into the wild, I am. It's been a wild freedom child, since I left my roots back home. Into the wild I'm good. Into the wild I am. It's been a while, freedom child, since I left my roots back home.
Speaker 1
Welcome to the Free Birth Society podcast. This is a radical space for women who are ready to celebrate their autonomous choices in birth, motherhood, and beyond. Together, we'll learn about wild birth through personal narrative, we'll explore the politics of birth, and we'll analyze everything that relates to our lives as women from a feminist perspective. Here's your host, Emilee Saldaya.
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It's been a wild freedom change
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Hey, sisters. Kate here, creatrix of Womancraft, A Witch's Awakening. Do you find yourself drawn to ritual, divination, and dream work? Are you being called to heal deeply? Do you want to learn the real herstory of women? Check out my course, Womancraft, A Witch's Awakening, which can be found at free birth society courses dot com slash womancraft and awaken your inner wise woman today.
Speaker 3
From the fertile land of Costa Rica, Estonia shares the glorious stories of her two births. From her spiritual conceptions to the divine initiations of pregnancy as deep shadow work, Estonia talks about embracing the ebb and flow of life as a resilient, powerful, and autonomous single mom. Alright, my friend. Welcome.
Speaker 4
Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3
So take us wherever you would like to start. I'm so excited to hear your stories today, and you're calling in from Costa Rica. So tell us
Speaker 4
a little bit about who you are. Okay. Well, I am Estonia Elizabeth Garcia. I am a Kenyan woman living in the tropics of Costa Rica in the Caribbean. I absolutely love it here. I think for four years now, and it has been incredible. I still get hit with this out of body experience of, like, walking down the street or walking on the beach and realizing that I live in a postcard. Oh, and it's a very beautiful place to live and raise children. So raising children for me was like an absolute no in any other place that wasn't by the sea. I needed to live by by water. I knew that that is how I was meant to raise children by the ocean. I'm a Pisces. I'm actually a Pisces sun, moon, Mars, Mercury, and Saturn. So like a lot of my major charts and my major signs are in Pisces. I grew up between Kenya and Texas. My mother got a scholarship to play basketball in Texas, East Texas. And long story short, I ended up getting born in East Texas and then sent back to Kenya. And we grew up in Kenya for several years and then started this migration of back and forth thing. Ended up graduating high school in Dallas, Texas and going to university at Texas State near Austin. And then I ended up just living in San Marcos. And when I lived in San Marcos, I fell in love with this this the river that's connected to the spring lake, the Guadalupe River. It's absolutely beautiful. And the San Marcos River held on to me for a long time, but I knew that I needed to go. I knew that I needed to travel. And sisterhood actually guided me to. I was in the online women circle, and there was a couple of women that lived here in Costa Rica, and they were like, you should come here. I was in the space of, like, I wanna just put on a backpack and go travel and just, like, be out there in the world. So I was like, okay. I'm just I was already in my travel flow. I lived in Nicaragua for a little bit. I lived in New York for a little bit, different areas. And then I was like, okay. I donated my whole house practically, and I'm sized down to a seventy five liter black pack, and a hula hoop. Of course.
Speaker 3
You have
Speaker 4
to have a hula hoop. Yeah. I have a hula hoop, but I had the hula hoop around my bag. It actually was like an orb around
Speaker 3
me. Totally.
Speaker 4
Yeah. So it was really fun. And I landed here, and I fell in love with the Caribbean. And the first week here, everyone's like, what are you doing here? How long are you here for? And I was like, I moved here. And And they're like, it's your first time here. I'm like, yes. And I moved here. And so it was I just so I was rooted. I felt rooted instantaneously. This beautiful frequency, of Puerto Viejo, I like to call it Portal Viejo, because it feels like a portal. It feels like you are floating in a yummy portal. And in the first couple of months of being here, I had some incredible experiences, some herbal bath healing. I went through some really deep cleanses from my womb, my body shedding a lot, and then I got pregnant. It was almost like I got groomed for pregnancy when I got here. It was like, oh, And it's really great because one of my friends one of my sisters that I moved here to to see, she told me in the first week or two that this is a very fertile land. Mhmm. And I was like, oh, okay. Cool. And I was thinking, like, great. I'm gonna build a garden and, like, grow a bunch of food. Like, I was I was pregnant. I got pregnant in the first, like, three months of being here. And so I was like, okay. And the father and I, he and I were very close friends at the time. We were very, very, ignited and connected to our inner children. Our inner children is what brought us together. It was like this very strong inner child connection. And we basically stayed in an indigenous farm out in the mountains. We took care of this farm for a Bibi woman for a while, and we're taking care of this farm. This is where my first baby was named, and it was actually really incredible. I'd love to start here because the conception story of my first child is incredible. I haven't talked about it in a little while, and it just it gives me goosebumps when I think about it because we really intentionally created this child. It was a planned birth, but not to our human selves. Like, our our spirits were guiding us, and it didn't Wow. When I looked back on it throughout my pregnancy, I was like, oh, my God. We spent a whole week preparing ourselves to conceive. And we were chopping. We were cleaning. We were clearing up fields with machetes. We were sunbathing out in this huge farm by bananas and all this stuff. Just naked sunbathing all the time, eating nothing but bananas and fruits and gallo pinto and just sharing love. And it was so purifying. And I remember one one day well, actually, two or three days ago, we did sunbathing out in the garden, and we would be alone, naked. And I had my yoni to the sun, and I would just be imagining myself drinking the sun into my Yoni. And it was, like, pouring into my body, clearing my womb. And, like, yeah, I was full on doing meditations with the sun, like, penetrating into me. And I was like, oh, yes. I'm getting clear and clean. And he was doing the same thing next to me with his body, and we're both just, like, absorbing the sun sun energy. Awesome. And at one point, he looked we looked at the sky, and we were talking to the sky one day, and the sky was responding. The sky was going back and, like, everything we would say, like, move this cloud to the left and the cloud would instantly move. And we were like, oh my god. He was like, the sky is listening. The universe is listening to us right now. What do we we should ask for something. What should we do? It's like it's manifest something because obviously we're tuned in. And I was like, yeah. Okay. Let's do it. What are we doing? And he was like, let's ask for ten million dollars Now, backstory, three days earlier on the farm, there was this little boy we were taking care of. He was, like, three years old. And this my my lover at the time, my partner, he was, like, playing with his child. And I said to him, wow. You're really great with kids. You'd be I think you'd be a great father. Like, you've got a really good energy with children. And he was like, oh, no. He made a joke and he was like, I could never be a father unless I had ten million dollars to take care of them. Now, fast forward three days later, we are in the meditation phase, and he's like, let's meditate on ten million dollars. At this certain moment, he's not remembering the statement that he made in which he equated a child to ten million dollars. Right? And I also didn't remember that in this moment. So I guide us through this out of body experience and we meditate and I guide us to leave our bodies, leave Costa Rica, leave this realm, go to the veil, cross over the veil, go into the forest and find this treasure chest that has this golden orb of light inside of it. And we both absorb this golden orb of light, and it was full of abundance and full of the ten million dollars energy that we were asking for. And we absorbed it into our body being that we were visualizing ourselves with. And then we came back down through the ether into this realm and back into Earth and back into and back into our bodies. And when we landed back in our bodies, we flipped out for, like, ten minutes actually feeling like we had ten million dollars Like it was the trippiest moment of my life where I actually felt that I had ten million dollars Like every cell in my body felt I had ten million dollars And
Speaker 3
I was like, Oh, my God, what am I
Speaker 4
giving you? Ten million dollars Like, we were like, I made a list of fifty things I was about to do with the ten million dollars Like, it was so, so real. It was the realest feeling I ever had. And this is my son. We conceived him that night. And, like and I just, like, had oh, man. It's so insane when I think about it.
Speaker 3
Did you name him ten million?
Speaker 4
No. No. But his name is Johari Son. So Johari in Swahili means, a gem, like a gemstone or something of value. And it it I chose his name because it reminded me of this golden herb, this treasure. When we open the treasure chest, he was that gem. Totally. That's so cool. Yeah. He was the gem that we absorbed and soul is sun in Spanish. And he basically he was that light. It was like a light. It was a sun. It was a mini sun that we just like. Yeah. So this is how he was conceived. And, you know, whenever I realized I was pregnant, I was kind of a denial at first. And then I was like, this baby was born. So, like, it was conceived so intentionally, unintentionally that it just has to be it just has to be this. And so throughout my pregnancy, I felt right in the actually right in the beginning, I had all those feelings of like, oh my God, I'm pregnant in Costa Rica by myself. What am I going to do? Like, and I had a sister say to me, you have permission to be excited about this. And I was like, oh, okay. Oh, I can be happy about this. Oh, okay. Cool. Because I feel like it's so too norm to, like, get pregnant and, like, stress and get nervous and get upset and think of all the what ifs and all the, like, shameful thoughts that come up in society. I'm like, oh, unplanned pregnancy. Oh, they're like, I was twenty two at the time when I got pregnant. And I was like, oh, she's young. I don't really feel like I was young. I've been running a household since I was ten years old. I have taken care of humans since I was young. My birth mother, fell ill when I was eight years old and she had a stroke and a seizure at the same time and went into a coma for half a year. And when she woke up from this coma, she was wiped clean as a newborn. So she had to relearn how to walk, talk, who she was, who I was, how to eat, like everything. And so I had to care for my mother from this experience of like, basically getting a reset. So like, I knew that I knew what it took to take care of a human. I took care of a human and I've taken care of humans, plural. I've been a nanny. Like, I knew I had the the physical skill. So at this point, it was just like a mental game of deciding, like, do I wanna do this? Mhmm. Do I have the will to do this? Do I have the love in me to do this? And I decided that I did. And so I chose to be excited about it and I chose to be joyful about it. And I chose to embrace it even if it, you know, pregnancy is up and down, but it's a choice. It's a choice. So I went through this pregnancy and I told his father, look, we were meant to make this baby for something greater than I can control. Like, this was our spiritual contract here was to make this child. And I'm giving you the permission to choose, like, if you want to be here or not be here, but you can't do both. So just pick one. Be here or don't. Like, I'm giving you full authority to choose because we were in a we were in a relationship for, like, maybe two months and when we got pregnant. So it was really fast and I didn't feel right to, like, trap him and be like, now you have to stay with me forever. I was like, let's I want to choose. I want to create a healthy life for me and my baby. I want my baby to feel loved and nourished. And I don't want him to, to be in a household where there's not that love and nourishment, where there I don't want him to be in a household where there's resentment. And so I want him to choose. And he chose to go. And, you know, it was kinda hard for me at the beginning. And then I was like, okay. I can make this work. I can make this work. Wow. And I did. I ended up meeting another man that I was, in a relationship with when at three months pregnant. I told him I was pregnant on my first day meeting him, and he thought it was pretty bad and cool and was like, cool. I just wanna be in your life anyway. And I was like, okay. And so we did, and he helped me give birth. He was at my birth, a free birth with him. And so yeah. So I went to pregnancy and I ate all the pancakes I could possibly desire. I had such a pancake craving. Oh my goodness. I ate so many pancakes. I think I hit the quota for my life. And I didn't allow people to tell me what to do. My first pregnancy, what I learned the most was that everybody has an opinion about your pregnancy and how you should do it. And I I was like gladiator with these walls. You know, I was like, no. Like, I'm you're not about to tell me. Like, this one lady was like, you need to be taking folic acid and all this stuff. And I was like, I was like four or five months pregnant. Like, I went to her she was on server at a restaurant, and I went to get French toast, and she was like, lecturing me on folic acid. And I was like, sorry. I'm here to eat French toast. I don't want your folic acid propaganda. Like, I I I'm here for the French toast. And, like, I refuse because it just I looked at her and I remember saying, so why do I need to take folic acid folic acid again? And she was like, it's gonna make, it's gonna help your brain develop and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, okay. Doesn't the body already produce what it needs for the brain to develop? And she's like, yeah, but it's not enough. And I was like, why is it not enough? Since when was it enough? Not enough, you know? And she was like, I mean, it was it was just came out, like, I don't know what she said, like in the sixties or something. She's like, throw a random number. She's like, there's, like, it came out that this is really important. And I was like, so you need to tell me that for centuries and centuries, babies are being made without Oh, yeah. Like and they were they were, like, not developed brains. Like, Shakespeare was not a developed brain. None of them were. Einstein was not a developed brain because his mom didn't take folic acid. Is this what you're telling me? And she was just like, well, I just like, you know, like, when you ask these questions, they just get stopped, like stumped. They just don't even know where to go. And so, like, this is where I started, like, it just became a game to me. I was like, this is not been real. I, you know, so, you know, fast forward to the end of the pregnancy, actually, second trimester. Wow. Wow. Second trimester, I feel for me, first trimester, first pregnancy, second trimester, so much shadow work. So much shadow work. Like, my first trimester, I did a lot of healing with my with my father. In my second trimester, it was like I felt all the darkness seeping out of me. And what I realized is that my body and soul was, like, cleansing out and burning out all that needed to be moved to make space for this baby. Like, the more this baby was dropping into my fourth my force field, the more things had to get removed out of my force field and both physically and spiritually, energetically, all of it. And I had a purge. It was like so much clearing, so much clearing and so much rage and anger came out, which I found really interesting. And I think that this came out from like a millennia of rage and anger that the mother holds, that we don't get to express. There was like, I remember this graph, this one moment where I just went outside and I took a couple of glasses with me and I broke them. I like needed I was like, I have this rage inside of me and I need to get it out somehow. And I was just like, I'm going outside. And I took these cups and I went outside and I picked this area. I lived like deep in the jungle with like no neighbors. And I went out of the jungle and I just smashed these cubs. And it was the most amazing feeling. And I had to just release all of this like deep rage inside of me. And some of it was from my from me and a lot of it was from my ancestors and my ancestors' ancestors, and it was just so far. And this was really necessary. Like, every woman I know that's pregnant, I tell them don't learn from the pain, because pregnancy is like a deep ego death, shadow work initiation process. Like and it's it's beautiful. It's like, oh my goodness. The bump and the baby showers and all the nice, really things are great. But people gotta talk more about the shadow work that happens during pregnancy. And when I say shadow work to anyone that doesn't, like, is not familiar with this, it means, like, healing the the mother wounds, healing the birth wounds, like your own birth story, healing abandonment wounds, healing fear, and all the forms of fear that can come up through pregnancy. The not enoughness stories that, like, it just there's so much there's so much to cover it and it all comes up. Yeah.
Speaker 3
So in your pregnancy, do you engage in the medical complex, or are you just doing it wild and free from the
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I did it wild and free. With my first baby, I had zero ultrasounds. And I, yeah, I had zero ultrasound. I have a doctor who's a holistic doctor. He's certified. He used to be an OB an OB, in San Jose in the capital, and he's delivered, like, over like, hundreds of babies. But he left the medical system because he did not agree with it. He wasn't into it, you know, for all the obvious reasons. And so he has his own private practice. And so I I had three checkups with him, and it all happened after thirty weeks. So it was just in the last and I only did them because Costa Rica required it. Right. For for registration. So I just squeezed in three check ins in the last, couple weeks. And I listened to his heartbeat with a little handheld doctor, and that was about it. That's, like, the only way that we intervened. I had some some massages and some, osteotherapy and, like, different things done to help my body feel more comfortable and make more space. Mhmm. But, no, I didn't. I did. And all of the all of that work was done also by holistic private, practitioners. Mhmm. And so yeah. With my second pregnancy, though, I did have one ultrasound at three months. That was only because I got hit by a car. So we had to make sure that there wasn't any internal bleeding. But other than that, I probably would have done the same wild, like, no sound. It was really interesting to see how he responded to the to the ultrasound, though. And I I made it very short. I was like, let's check it. There's no bleeding. Okay. We're done. Like, it was very in and out quick. Yeah.
Speaker 3
So yeah. Yeah. Well, the reason I was asking about the the relationship to the medical world is because, you know, when I hear women, especially in their first pregnancy, so willing and internally resourced to do the depth, you know, to go to the depths of this work that you're speaking of, I really almost exclusively only hear that from women who are walking a wild and free path. Because as I'm sure you, of course, know, and obviously my listeners know, you know, when we are engaging in when in the medical system as our savior, right, when we are outsourcing our internal, you know, security approval and control, right, when we're outsourcing our power, you could call it, we get to live this lie, this illusion that someone else can tell us that things are okay. And so we create this bypass with the system that is unsustainable and ultimately false. Right? And so I really appreciate you naming all of that work, and and I'm just imagining you at twenty two just showing up to this new land and just saying yes.
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Yeah.
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You know, just all around just yes to all of it. It's just such a it's a really radiant story.
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Thank you. You know, for me, it was being twenty two alone in the tropics of a foreign country by yourself with a very little money and a baby in the belly would be really scary. Mhmm. And I've had I have this thing with myself where I like to, like, one up myself. So, like, I'm, like, always in competition with myself. So if I'm like, oh, I like to challenge myself. I'm like, oh, this is difficult. I'm like, bet you I can do it. And, like, and just like, I bet myself that I can do it. And then I ended up doing it. And then I'm like, see, told me I could do it. And it's just like, this is how I get I conjure up that, that bravery to do these things. It's like I motivate myself through self competition, which is a healthy form of competition because we need that, but not with others, only with ourselves. And I also something I did too with my first pregnancy, especially, I listened to zero birth stories. I listened to zero birth stories and I read zero books. The only book I read was spiritual midwifely, and I only read the end of the book, which is, like, mostly factual. And I did not read many of the stories. I read I I skim at the beginning, I skimmed a couple, and then I said, no. No. No. And the reason I did this is because I know my brain, and I know that I am I'm a visual person. And in the moment of birth, I didn't want to pull up someone else's experience into my birth visualization presence and, like, recreate something that someone else experienced. I didn't wanna have that experience. Like, I wanted to have a completely raw experience of my own without any outside influence.
Speaker 3
But then does that imply that you didn't have a lot of negative programming of just being alive in this world through media and every movie you've ever seen, you know, a birth scene in the movies. Like, did
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that just All of that all of that, I chose to completely unsubscribe to. I knew that it was bullshit. Sorry. I but I knew that I was scared. Okay. I knew that that was all completely, like, just like, oh my god. My water break. Oh my god. I'm getting a car. Like, it's something we idiotic. It didn't even make sense. So I never really believed in it. My sister that came down to be with me at the birth, I had one sister, a really, really long time friend. Her son is my godson and and my partner at the time. That was it. And she said to me, like, why aren't you nervous? And I looked at her and I said, I've given birth thousands of times. And, like, this is just the first time in this vessel. Mhmm. I have given birth thousands of times. So all I need to do is think back and remember those times I've given and I've had visions of myself giving birth in the woods, giving birth in the mountains, giving birth in the middle of the desert, giving birth in the middle of the ocean, like giving birth everywhere. Like I've given birth, leaning up against a tree in the Amazon. Like, I've given birth in so many different places. And I'm just, like, oh, you're Haven't I given birth? I've been alive for a long like, I this is not my first life here, and I feel like I've, like, I've been doing this. I've been birthing people for a minute.
Speaker 3
Even if even if you think about it just ancestrally, like, it's it's in us that every woman before us has given birth to us. You know? So even if it's from that lens, it's it's so obvious. I love that.
Speaker 4
So my first pregnancy, I chose to rest in the ignorance is bliss Mhmm. Energy. And I was like, I don't wanna know anything. I don't wanna read anything. I don't wanna get. I would literally stop people mid sentence when they would start talking about their birth story. I'd be like, I bet it was great. Tell me after I give birth.
Speaker 5
Mhmm.
Speaker 4
Because I I just I was like, no. I just don't want anything here. Nothing. And that was the most amazing thing for me to do to myself. Because when I gave birth, I had a sixteen hour labor. Actually, it started on Sunday at twelve. My nuke is blood released. And at that point, I was two centimeters dilated. But active labor started Monday evening at, like, ten forty five.
Speaker 3
Wait. How did you know that your cervix was already dilated?
Speaker 4
Well, when the mucus plug releases, it's it releases when the dilation of the cervix is already about two centimeters in general. Like, it's you're always a little bit dilated when the mucus plug releases. So it's like the process is already starting, and that's why it's releasing. And so I this is actually something I just learned from this old, indigenous midwife here that I was training with. And she shared this with me, and I was like, what? Does that mean that I, like, technically started labor two days earlier than I thought? And so it was like, this is this is a part of passive labor. And so something I I also forgot to mention is that I predicted the day I was gonna go into labor. So going, like a month before I had dreams and I, and I was like, oh, June twenty fourth, June twenty fourth. I'm gonna have this baby. And I was like, I'm going into it with June twenty four. This is the day I'm going into labor. And astrologically, when I looked it up, that day was a very strong day for Pisces and Cancers. They had like a I think they were they were training that day with Sagittarius. My partner at the time was Sagittarius. My baby was a Cancer and I'm a Pisces and we were trining. And I was like, oh, this is the day. And it was the day that I went to be fair. And it started at ten forty five. Now, this being my first time, I was very naive to the experience. So it took me longer to get through it because I was I was gentle with myself. I didn't like I didn't rush it. I was like exploring these new feelings, breathing through it. I used a lot of cacao and peanuts. I popped cacao and peanuts the entire time. It was really great. Highly recommended. Peanuts, So ideal for birth. Like you just like, you don't have to chew that much. It's really quick. The saltiness, it's great. Cacao, if you can get raw organic cacao, wherever you are in the world, get it. It gives you a boost of energy, opens your heart chakra. It like it's so good. So, so good. Like, I don't know if you know a little bit about cacao, but the Mayans used to actually offer, they used to offer human heart sacrifices back in the day, and they traded it out for cacao because it's like the equivalent energetically to a human heart. So, like, cacao is really powerful, raw organic cacao. So I was eating raw cacao. And yeah, I had a big yoke ball. I had some mantras. We did a lot of breathing, a lot of moving. I had a pool that was out in the garden, but it was cold. I didn't have it heated. I spent two minutes in it. It was a great it was a it was a beautiful idea, a beautiful setup, but I didn't mess. I ended up in the shower. Yeah. Because I was running, like, thinking, oh my god. I have to poop. And it was a baby. And I That's a baby. Oh, yes. That would because I at the beginning of my labor, I did an enamel right away. And so I didn't actually have to do highly recommend doing an enamel in the beginning of the labor, by the way, too. That really helped a lot. And so, yeah, I was in the shower. It was a very small shower, and he came out on my hands and knees. There's you know, when you go into transition, you're like, I'm tired. I can't do this anymore. I was bargaining to go to sleep and take a nap and, like, start again the next day. My sister was like, do you wanna redo the last fourteen hours again? And I was like, no. I can't. And so I'm like, I'm getting this baby out of me. It was a lot harder for me to, like, get my body open, like, my legs to open and actually, like, do the work. I was so tired. But I got in the shower, my ex got behind me. He put his knee he put his legs in between my legs my knees so that it would stay open. And I was in hands and knees. My sister is in front of me, and she was massaging from my neck down downwards down my spine. And I roared. I roared loudly. And in this position, hands and knees, I was actually visualizing myself as a dragon. And so I saw my head as a dragon, and my body was like the body of the dragon. And, like, the tail of the dragon was, like, going through my yoni. And I remember calling in my grandmother. My grandmother passed away about a year before this birth, and she gave birth eleven times. So I called her in, and I I asked her for assistance. And she like, in this moment, I'm well off in between worlds right now. But I was very present, and I was very, like, communicative and observing myself in the other worlds and this world. And I'm talking to my grandmother, and I asked her, can you please help me? Because his head, I need to get his head out. And she's like, I got you. And my hand started moving in in ways that I wasn't even thinking. You know, when you feel like when you think about doing a movement, like, I wanna drink water and then suddenly your hand picks up the water and you drink it. Wasn't like this. It was like no thought process, just doing. So my hands did this position. The the two fingers I don't know how to describe this. Isn't this a hand symbol for something? I think
Speaker 3
it's from Star Trek or something.
Speaker 4
I think it's a Star Trek symbol, like the b. Yeah. I literally did the Star Trek symbol, and I put it on his head. So here and I started pressing the the skin around, and I showed my my partner to do the opposite on the opposite side. And I use this to slowly and slowly start, like, moving the lips around his head, and then his head popped, and he just slipped right out. It was crazy. And, like, he's he was beautiful. When he came out, we sang to him and we we sang his birth song, which was amazing because he started to, like, look around and get a little nervous. And he was like, oh, what's happening? And then we started singing, and he was like, oh. And my son loves music, and the first thing he ever heard was music. And so
Speaker 3
When you when you say you sang his birth song, what was the birth song? Was it a song you made up, or what do you mean?
Speaker 4
It's a song that, we felt was connected to him. That was his song. So. So that was just her song. So we just, like, chanted this song for, like, five minutes and just saying this and he was just like, wow. And Chase,
Speaker 3
like, I can be here. I can be here.
Speaker 4
Yeah. He was really digging it. Yeah. It was cool. And actually, like, before my son started doing anything, any sound talking, he started clicking. So he'd be like,
Speaker 0
woah.
Speaker 4
We did that. Yeah. So he, like, would click and sing like, click to music, and it was great. So, yeah, he's a little musician. So, yeah, that was oh, and, actually, we ended up sitting in you know what's great? My partner read books. He read the rest of his virtual midwife read, but I didn't. And he read a story in there that talked about how the placenta stays inside longer than an hour. You should get help or, like, find a way to get it out. And I was in bliss mode where time is not real. And I remember, like, once he came out and his head got pushed through and he just slipped right out, it was so ecstatic. Oh my goodness. It felt so good. It was like this feeling of total bliss and orgasmic. I went from super high intensity to like super low relaxation, like just relaxation to the max. And I was just laying meeting up against the wall, holding him on my chest in total bliss and love. And, like, an hour flew by as if I I swear to you, I thought it would've been two minutes. And he was like, I was like, it has been like two to five minutes. And he's like, no, it's been an hour. I was like, what? He was like, we need to get this placenta out of here. The placenta ended up coming out three hours later. It took it. My body was too exhausted to push it out. So, my my doctor that I mentioned earlier ended up coming to my house to help me get it out. And so we I had to cut the cord. And I wanted to do a lot of sports, but because my placenta didn't immediately release, I had to, cut the cord, and we just did a little wiggle maneuver. Actually, he had to restart my contractions manually, which was intense. And then we wiggled out the placenta, and ended up, planting it in our garden. We have a tree. It's I think it's a. Oh, I'm so glad. I think I just butchered that name. It's like the Hawaiian tree, but they use for, like, lace, a little pink the middle of that. Yeah. You have one of those, and it it makes, like, an infinity. The roots no. Not the roots. The two branches made an infinity sign. Cool. Out out of this tree. And we planted
Speaker 3
like the appropriate place to plant a placenta.
Speaker 4
Yeah. And we planted it there with this infinity tree, which is where his birth pool was. He was supposed to be born next to the infinity tree, but it was too cold. It didn't work out. Yeah. So yeah. And he was a blissful lady. He was very relaxed. My child is so relaxed and happy. And, actually, both children are. And I and I really credit that to the birth. He spent three hours out born born with his placenta still inside of me. So it was like this really slow transition because the placenta is still, like, his organ. So he was only, like, half out in a way. And then his placenta came out. Like, once he was fully acclimated with being out to a degree, then the rest of him came. And I think that that really made a difference in how he felt comfortable and safe in the world. I think that this is what because we just spent that whole time staring at each other and still connected to each other, but on the outside. So it was a very slow transition. With my second baby, we were able to do a successful Lotus birth. It disconnected at at four days. His pregnancy was also unexpected. The father his father, I met him when me and my first son. We have been sing I've been single mom living with my first son for almost a year when I met Well, yeah.
Speaker 3
I wanna get that right. So the the partner who was at your birth was gone at some point in the first year?
Speaker 4
He yeah. So I don't wanna go too deeply on this, but I'm gonna just touch base quickly to for the details just to understand. He wanted he let me led me to believe, through that whole postpartum dysphoria, that he wanted to have a family with me. And what I realized later on is that he actually was really manipulating me a lot, and he wanted to gain residency in Costa Rica through my child, is is what I feel was really motivating him. He also had his own motivations of wanting to create his own child with his own seed and was always making me feel like my son wasn't enough for him, because he didn't make him. And we had issues with this even in in my pregnancy where when I got bigger and he refused to make love with me because, of the baby and would, like, tell me that my ex his my baby's father was still a part of me, and he didn't wanna you know, it was super weird. It was really messed up. And so, he, like, really manipulated me even, like, the mind game. This is why for me, I'm working as a postpartum doula because it's so important to me to support postpartum mothers. Like, it's this is such a sensitive time for us. And especially, I have PTSD for my book my first postpartum because of this man. Because he two months two months after giving birth, he was convincing me to try to give him another child for him. My lord. Yeah. And I was, like, so in the euphoria of, like, I want a family for my babies. I want a big like, I don't I don't wanna be alone. I'm in love with this man. He just delivered. He just caught my child that I gave birth to. Like, you know, and it's like this, like, all these hormones and things in the brain chemistry fucking with you and making you feel like, oh, yeah. This is a good idea. And then, like, he signed the birth certificate. And then two months later after when my son was four months old, he received news of an inheritance that he was receiving early, and he left to San Jose overnight and wrote me a Facebook message, when he was in the capital five hours away that he wasn't coming back. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I ended up just one day being alone again with my baby. Just the two of us living in a living like, twenty three years old with a four month old baby, little little money, no family support, nothing, like, very intense. And because he signed the birth certificate, I couldn't legally take my son out of the country because Costa Rica takes has a law of, not being you have to sign both parents have to sign to remove the child to travel. Did you not?
Speaker 3
Him off it?
Speaker 4
No. Actually, so it's been, like, two and a half years and my child still cannot leave the country. Just this just this month, actually, this man just returned, and I just saw him, a couple weeks ago. He's here now. And so we're in the process of figuring that out in this current moment and trying to get that paperwork handled. So, yeah, that's how that ended up. So I ended up
Speaker 3
He's willing to be cooperative about it now?
Speaker 4
Oh, yeah. Because after he left, he ended up, like, finding another woman. He manipulated his way into getting pregnant, and she had a child with him. And I think that that she's I don't know what they're trying to do, but it's important to him to he wants to close the chapter also. Oh, no. Okay. Good. And so, yeah, we're working on that. And so, anyway, I this is how I ended up being a single mom in Costa Rica with my four month old alone. I landed a house, through offering my blood to the garden. I started bleeding, and I was staying at this house, and I started pouring I was free bleeding to the garden. And then one day the owner of the house came and asked me if I wanted the house for a three year contract. And I was like, sure. And they was like a really it was a beautiful, like, spot five minutes from the beach, two bedroom house, two bathrooms, like three hundred thirty dollars a month for two years. Oh my gosh. It was amazing. I, like, landed a jackpot house. And I
Speaker 3
How many women that are gonna go put their blood onto some nice house somewhere?
Speaker 4
And it's crazy because I wasn't doing it with that intention. I literally just, like, wanted to offer my blood to the garden there instead of pouring it down the toilet drain. I was like, I felt I was doing art with it and giving it to the garden. Like, I just wanted to honor the blood. And the girl who lives there left to Spain in the same the same day that she told me, I think I wanna leave to Spain, and I and I'm and would you be interested in the house? And I was like, oh, maybe. And then the landlord came and said, hey. The house is yours now, when she leaves. And I was like, oh, okay. So we lived there, through the whole pandemic and everything. And it was actually really great because we got hit very softly with the pandemic here. Sorry for the rooster. He's having a moment. Yeah. But we got we hit got we got hit very, very gentle with COVID here. It was not intense. We basically just I was still going to ecstatic dances, having cuddle piles. Like, the beach was technically closed, but I live literally on the beach, like, five minutes away. So I just went whenever I wanted because nobody was there. I actually constantly had a private beach, which was great. And my son and I got into a really steady rhythm with each other. And about when he was a little over a year old, I met his, my second child's father. And we had a beautiful connection, and he he and my first child are very strongly connected. They have a beautiful relationship. They fell in love with each other right away. And then my second child came along and expected me. And, yeah, I'd had also a wild pregnancy with him. I craved a lot of meat with him. His father's Argentinian, and they eat they live off of, like, meat, cheese, and bread. And so I was craving hamburgers, and I was eating gourmet burgers for, like, breakfast. It wasn't it was intense, because this is what my body asked for. And I strongly, strongly, strongly suggest to always eat whatever your body asks for during pregnancy. You know? A lot of people would be like, no. I wanna have an alkaline pregnancy. Cool. Do that. I wanna have a vegan pregnancy. Cool. Do that. I wanna, like, eat all the chicken in the world. Cool. Do that. My first pregnancy, I ate all the pancakes at town. I had a restaurant that had a specific menu item just for me that was, like, gallo pinto with pancakes. Like, which is not it was just, like, my thing. It was gallo pinto with pancakes and and a fruit bowl. And I ate it all the time. It was, like, five dollars and she because I was there every single day. And so, you know, I feel like when you're pregnant, your body craves what it wants, to be nourished. You're also not always eating just for nourishment. We eat for our ancestors too. We eat for our ancestors, and sometimes I I got to this point where I accepted my ancestors crave certain things through me. So I have to eat things to satisfy them as well because it's not just me that I'm eating for because this flesh is not just mine. I am my ancestors prayers embodied. I am my ancestors embodied again. And so I carry everything that comes along with them. So my father's side of the family, he they are Luya in Kenya, the Luya tribe, and my mother is Luo. Luya's are known for farming chicken. And so with both of my pregnancies, I I readopted chicken back into my life. When I was when I pre pregnancy with my first child, I was fully vegetarian and, like, mostly vegan most of the time. And then my pregnancy is just like, alright. I need protein. I need to eat meat. This is grounding for me. This is, like Yeah. Feels good for me. I I found good sources. And with the right sources and handling, it felt really good for my body to have this energy. And so until the moment that I I get to where I don't need it. And I know that everything is in seasons. And I've just, like, understood that my my diet through pregnancy slash breastfeeding is a season of my life. And it doesn't need to, like, define, like, oh, this is how I'm gonna eat forever. This is how I need to eat now. You know? So, yeah, I craved burgers and I eat burgers all the time. And I had also a wild pregnancy. I only did the ultrasound that one time because I was, put by a car on my motorcycle, and I was three months pregnant. And before I got pregnant with my second child, I was hosting ecstatic dances, every week, and I continue to do that through my pregnancy. So every week, all the way through my seven months of pregnancy, I was doing ecstatic dance every single Monday, three, like, two hours. So my first son my second son is he loves dancing because we danced every single week. And even now, I can put him in a in a wrap and go out and, like, dance, and he'll just sleep. And I can, like, full on, like, have a good time and, like, play and hang out with my friends because he's passed out. It's, like, just like being in the womb. And with both of my babies, I also did a lot of attachment parenting where I wrap. I always wrap them to me. I always hold them. I co sleep with them. My oldest sleeps in his own bed now. He also self weaned off of, breast milk. He's really independent, and I feel like this comes a lot from a year of just straight all the time together. We had a steady routine, a steady structure, and babies thrive off structure. They thrive off stability. They thrive off connectedness.
Speaker 3
Right. Like, they'll be more independent.
Speaker 4
They'll be more independent the more you give them that in the beginning. And I think so many people rush to be like, okay. I give birth to the baby. Now let's get this baby independent fast. Like and it's like, no, Lynn. Just let it be a baby. Let it be a baby. Let it whine. Let it be in your arms all day. Let let them just let them be a baby. You know? Let them let them be close to you because your heartbeat is all they listen to for so long.
Speaker 3
You have to create a life where you can let your baby be a baby. And most people most women, you know, unfortunately, don't have lives where they created with with awareness, consciousness, you know, whatever to let their babies be babies. It's so Yeah. Intriguing.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Our society doesn't support that. It doesn't support, like, a healthy expression of nesting. Like, the nesting nesting is I oh, with both of my children, I nested for forty days without taking them outside only for, like, little walks outside and, one on one. But, yeah, we did forty day nesting. With my second one, I had meal train set up. I had food food bought. You know, it's really, really good to make sure that people know that postpartum slash nesting is is at least the first year. And nesting is not just like that period of time where you're, like, in bed holding each other all the time. This is great. But nesting is the whole first year. Like, you are holding them like a kangaroo. Like, they should be like a like, the kangaroo patch. Like, I use kangaroos as examples all the time because you see they hold their babies right there. You know? And this is how we're supposed to be doing it too because they wanna feel safe and close. And when those needs get met early, right from the beginning, then as they get older, they're not grasping and reaching for those needs from all these other avenues. And then when they become adults, they're not, like so they're not, supplying those needs with with drugs and alcohol and sex and all these other things to try to void. To try to fill that void of, like, what everybody is looking for is that holding from the mother. And the way for us to really create a change in this world is to start holding our babies longer Because these these new humans first of all, these pandemic babies, they hit different. They're strong. They're like And they're crazy. They're completely different. Like, every baby I've met that's been made in this last two years is just, like, progressing really quickly, extremely alert, very intelligent. Like, they have upgraded themselves cycle like, consciously. And as parents of this generation, it's our duty to really guide and love and nourish them specifically in the ways that we maybe didn't receive ourselves. And this is how we break these patterns. This is how we create a better future. So I feel really passionate about that. And so my second son, he was incredible. We were gifted a jacuzzi to give birth in, by a friend a sister friend that also gave birth in this jacuzzi. And this jacuzzi has gone on to be passed around our community here, and it has had several other babies birth in it.
Speaker 3
So did you wind up birthing at this cute little house that you gave your blood to?
Speaker 4
No. So this cute little house that I gave my blood to blurred. Blurred. Blurred to you. I gave my blurred. It it ended up I ended up moving out of there after a while. There was some shift of energies, and I needed to shift. And funny enough, here I am. It's actually great because with my second baby, I was in search of a new place to live after we left our birth house. And around three months, which is just a month earlier than the last house I found with my first son, around three months, I found another house, which I am sitting in currently. And I was also offered this house for a three year contract. Oh. Same deal over again. The exact same deal twice. And I was like, how does this get how does this happen twice? Like, my children manifested this for themselves. They wanted to
Speaker 3
that sun meditation you did a while back, just calling in abundance left and right.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Exactly. Because that ten million dollars is still coming. It's still coming. Yeah. It's still coming. Beautiful. Paying up. Yeah. So we gave birth. My my first second son, that was a fast birth. I actually remember saying all the time, like, I wanna give birth in four hours just because I was like, I wanna get it done. I wanna be in there forever. Like, sixteen hours is way too long. But then, funny enough, I ignited my labor with my second child unintentionally, again, intentionally spirit led by doing rapay. Do you know what rapay is? Yeah. Fermented called it. Yeah. Rape rape. Right? Yeah. I it's You mean the birthday of. Uh-huh. Rape rape. Yeah. It's fermented tobacco, and and just it through the nose.
Speaker 3
My god. You did that for more labor.
Speaker 4
I didn't I didn't think about it. So this is the thing. My children my oldest was sick. He had, like, a little cold, and my partner was also getting sick. And then that night, I was feeling myself feeling sinus y, and it was, like, my thirty ninth week or something or yeah. I was, like, almost at forty. And I was like, oh my god. No. I think maybe I was at forty. And I was like, I can't get sick. The baby is about to be born. Everybody is sick. This can't happen. So I went You gotta snort something back up. I love it. You're you're in
Speaker 3
the jungles of Costa Rica. I get it.
Speaker 4
Yeah. So I go to the bath I go outside and I, like, grab my stuff and I did some rep a. I did two rounds of rep a. I cleared out my my third eye and cleared out my sinuses and I could breathe. Because, also, like, if I can't breathe, I get really irritated. Like Totally. It's so so hard for me. And I, yeah, I needed to get that out. And WebPaint really helps me to just clear out my sinuses and, like, open and breathe and really center. And so I did that, around eleven o'clock ish. One thirty in the morning, I wake up with contractions at, like they were, like, twenty minutes apart. And I was like, oh god. Okay. We're here. And by four o'clock, I had gone from ten minutes apart to three minutes apart between four to five AM in one hour. And this baby was coming. And I was, like, talking to my birth team and I was, you know, jungle problems. Right? Because the day before, we didn't have water. They cut off our water because they were putting pipes in the street or something. So we didn't have water the day before. We had a house full of dishes, so much laundry. There was so much to do. And it was five o'clock in the morning. My son is asleep, and I'm literally going I'm three minutes apart. And my whole birth team is, like, at home. And I was talking to one of them already, and I was just like, guys, I think this baby's coming now. So I hope it's okay to say this on here, but I took a bong rip.
Speaker 3
You are not the first mother to share this on the podcast. Your title of your episode is gonna be from ape to bong rips as second birth.
Speaker 4
I took a bong rip and I ate some rice and beans. I I took a bong rip and I ate some rice and beans and I took a nap. And it slowed down. It went down to, like, six minutes apart, and I took a nap. And, like, I woke up around, like, eight thirty or so. And my one of the sisters had already arrived, and she came in like a a ferry and just, like, the water was back, and she cleaned everything, organized everything. I woke up and I was in a holding house. Oh. And it was great. And then the rest of the team came, and I had a birth playlist. I put on the playlist. My oldest son was just walking around in his red basketball shorts and shirtless and just watching me. And my three sisters, I had three sisters come to support me, and they were amazing. They were my rocks. I would they had a system. I would start a contraction or a surge, and I would just yell, it's happening. And they would all rush to me, two on two on each side and one in the back, and they would hold each other and just breathe through it. And it would pass, and then they would disperse and go do their own thing. And, and I was dancing with a hula hoop, to my playlist for a while. This was really fun, actually. I hula hoop dancing through through contractions is really great. It really helped a lot. It actually made it less painful. I because I I don't know why the energy was moving. And then I took another nap, when my son took a nap. And then when my son woke up from his nap, my other friend came. I had such beautiful support. I had another sister come and take my older son, my two year old, to the beach to go hang out. It was, like, twelve thirty ish. And then I they woke me up. And when I got woken up, I was, like, I'm tired. I don't want to. Because prior to that nap, I was, like, going in and out in between realms. Like, I would get a surge and then boom, I was somewhere else, eyes closed and then boom, landing back into the body. And then going, and then I'm back in the body. And so then I'm I was like, I need a break. I'm napping. I was napping, woke up, and my friend, Amanda, she was like, you have to eat some honey. You have to restart you. She made me take two spoonfuls of honey, and I hated it. I, like, hated it. I was like, oh, I do not want to eat this honey right now. I love sweet things, but not, like, like, that strong. So she put cacao on it too. And so I ate these two spoonfuls of honey, went on my yoga ball, and I threw up. And I threw up and my water broke all at the same time. And it was intense. It was so intense. And I look at my and I looked at her and I was like, I need this baby out of me now. And she was like, I think you might be getting ready. And I was like, great. I'm going in the jacuzzi. And she's like, are you sure? If you get too soon, you could slow yourself down. And I was like, no. We're ready. And it was, like, maybe one thirty at this time, one thirty, one forty five. So we go into the jacuzzi, and I was kicking and flapping. And first, I go in the water and completely submerge underwater because I'm a Pisces and I had to swim it out. And then I looked at them, and I was like, why were you holding this back for me this entire time? It's an amazing
Speaker 3
this woman in the water.
Speaker 4
So good. It was it felt it was really hot. It was, like, thirty eight degrees Celsius, which is probably a little bit too hot, but it was perfect for me. I love hot water. And so I ended up like, there's this tree with a branch right next to the jacuzzi. We wrapped a big sheet around it for me to, like, pull on. And my partner was standing behind me putting pressure on my lower back, and my legs were flopping around like a dolphin everywhere, and pushed his baby out. He was a lot bigger than his brother, so his head popped out. And then I had two more pushes to get his shoulders out. But I remember just being there and feeling his head popped out. And, oh my god, when his head popped out, he was wiggling his body inside of the cervix, and it was like, it's the craziest. It's like, if you would imagine, like, you just can't. There is no way to imagine this. It's a crazy feeling. Like, I actually thought his father was behind me holding his head, twisting him like a light bulb, like, trying to wiggle him out of me or something. I was
Speaker 3
like, okay. Women will be like, stop touching me. And the partner's like, I'm literally not.
Speaker 4
Yeah. And he's like, I'm not touching his head. And I was like, oh my god. He's moving himself. And, yeah, it was such an amazing feeling. And then he came out, and, that was really beautiful. And fun fact, for the placenta this time, I got it out by blowing my nose. I blew my nose, and it helped because I was too tired again to, like, contract my belly. So I had my body instinctively just needed to sneeze. Like, him latching didn't ignite the placenta coming out. So I randomly had this feeling that I needed to sneeze. And I was like, can someone pass me a tissue? I really need to sneeze. And they're like, yeah. And they gave me a tissue, and I sneezed, and the placenta came out. And I was like, oh, thanks, body. Like, isn't that crazy? My body just was like, oh, let's just sneeze right now and you're gonna flex your abs and then the placenta will come out. We have a beautiful vessel. Where a whole spirit comes through us and three d prints itself into this world. Like our bodies are magic. They're straight magic, and it's absolutely incredible. It is the greatest service to humanity that I could have ever offered, and the greatest service to life. Yeah. I feel like I'm at service to life. I'm at service to love, at service to God. When you see, like, what comes out of this, you know? So yeah. And, you know, Lotus birth the second, and he's also very calm and chill and beautiful happy baby and very advanced. He already has two teeth. He had teeth coming in at three months, and he's five months and crawling already. So I'm, yeah, I'm very blessed with two very beautiful, happy, and joyful, and sociable children. My first child fist bumps everybody in this town. There's some people that know him before they know me. They're like, oh, you're your mom. And I'm like, yes. That's my son. Like That's a
Speaker 3
cute little social butterfly.
Speaker 4
Yeah. And then did
Speaker 3
you say that you're currently solo parenting again?
Speaker 4
Yeah. So like we said, when we spoke earlier, my second child's father, you know, his his father, left when he was a young boy. Because he's Argentinian, but they grew up in Brazil. He moved to Brazil when he was twelve. And his father left when he was, like, a few a couple years younger than that. And, you know, what I've discovered is and observed, is really difficult for men to know how to hold space and be a pillar through the experience of postpartum, and, like, the transformation of becoming a father without proper support for themselves. Like, if they don't have the proper examples and support from men in their surrounding or in their family, to help them understand this process or how to, like, understand their woman too, it is really difficult. He also he got thrown into a big shift. You know? When we met, he was a single man. And then over the span of a year, he became a father of two. And he lost his father when my two year old turned two on his birthday. And his and his father died a month after I gave birth to our second child my second child. And he didn't really have the time and space to fully process these losses. His grandmother also died during my pregnancy with our child in my second pregnancy. She died in second trimester, and she was, like, his queen. And so, like, he lost he got a lot of grief that he never really processed. And I know that because I was living with it. I could see that he was playing that, like, superhero role. Like, yeah, I got this. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do what I need to do and keep moving forward. But it was actually harming me more and harming himself more and harming the environment more that he wasn't feeling his feelings and wasn't doing the work. Yeah. There's a lot of growth that he's needing to expand into, and it just wasn't it wasn't an emotionally safe environment for me, for him, or for the children to be doing it together. Mhmm. So at the moment, I'm doing it on my own, and he's healing, hopefully. And I yeah. And I actually feel I feel okay. You know? I I feel really confident in myself. And this this this last pregnancy and this last birth healed a lot of my relationship with my own birth family too. And I've I've been healing a lot around my inner child. I've been doing a lot of inner child work for a long time. I hold I host retreats in Costa Rica. And so my retreats are basically about transformation. And I started something called the Phoenix Rising Collective in which we we work in that ring of fire. We channel that energy of the ring of fire that we all go through to birth. We experience that on a daily basis. We experience that in our lives. We experience that death and rebirth energy all the time. And for me, what I've what I've found is my mission since my first birth is that I am meant to help people remember what to do, how to get through that ring of fire, how to actually rise from the ashes, how to push through the burn and rise to our highest potential. And our highest self is our inner child. Our inner child is our highest self, and our inner child is our shadow self too. And when we don't, know how to relate with that energy and when we don't know how to become, in in alignment with our inner child, then it's very easy for us to fall into patterns that are typically expressed through our shadow self. But when we are intentionally empowering ourselves, standing in our truth, standing in our voice, standing in our presence, embracing our creations, our dreams, embracing our yeses and our noes, and honoring our inner children, honoring ourselves. That's when our inner child channels that creativity and that joy and that curiosity that drives life, that brings abundance, that brings love, that brings all the things. All of that stuff that we wanna create in our life comes when we tap into a specific kind of joyful, presence in our hearts, and that joy is activated through the inner child. It's like this innocence. And so, yeah, I have actually I have a retreat coming February February twenty seventh through March third, and I'm so stoked about it because, you know, my last retreat I did was before COVID started. And I wanted to start again, but then I got pregnant. And I was like, okay. Let me just have this baby, and then we'll get back to doing this work. So, yeah, I I incur if anyone is interested in coming out to Costa Rica and joining one of these retreats or learning more about these retreats, you can contact me and Instagram through, jungle moon mama that will be shared here, by Free Worlds Society. And also, you can just reach me directly, through email at living dot gratitude dot wellness at g mail dot com. Living gratitude wellness. And, yeah, I love to share. I love to share. And it's it's such an honor to share my gifts and to share my presence and my magic to ignite and be a mirror to all the other people around me in the world to remember their gifts and their magic, and be empowered and sovereign. Beautiful.
Speaker 3
Thank you so much for all that you shared today. And, yeah, I'm really, really in awe of the grace that you have have chosen. It's really beautiful.
Speaker 4
Thanks. It's all a choice in life. Yeah. Exactly. Whatever.
Speaker 3
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Speaker 5
I honor you for the wisdom you held, the ancient traditions of plant medicine and womb magic. Magic. I feel the spirit of the ancestors as I place place my hands upon my belly. This sacred portal will be honored. Eons upon light beams of survival, withstanding the eradication of our power by design. I will not allow the separation of our young to be forced upon me. My sisters will no longer birth in captivity. The picket line redefined from burning our wild women to paralyzing us and drugging our babes. Strapped down in a clinical white bed drying up the milk from our breasts, keep your needles. My family will never again be doomed to chase those dragons all your present. We reject your fear. We choose love. Everything with intention. Death, ascension. I will fly and bring her back from the star.