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Into the wild, I'm going into the wild, I am. It's been a wild freedom child since I left my roots back home. Into the wild I'm good. Into the wild I am.
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Welcome to the Free Birth Society podcast. This is a radical space for women who are ready to celebrate their autonomous choices in birth, motherhood, and beyond. Together, we'll learn about wild birth through personal narrative, we'll explore the politics of birth, and we'll analyze everything that relates to our lives as women from a feminist perspective. Here's your host, Emilee Saldaya.
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Welcome, Noriko.
Speaker 4
Thank you. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I'm excited to have you, and we both we both birthed babies and were pregnant in similar times and had you in the school. And it's just so wonderful to have you on and to be connecting with you again.
Speaker 4
Thank you, Emilee.
Speaker 3
So take us to the beginning. This was your second baby, and so tell us about who you were when you became a mother for with your first son.
Speaker 4
Yeah. It's it's a matter of where does birth begin. Right? But, I was born in Kenya at home in my my mother's bedroom. And, yeah, I guess it all starts from there. It's like, I've always known that, finding my partner and birthing my babies or just creating family is, like, the one of the huge soul purposes that I have. So that's been a huge theme in my life. And, yeah. So when I was fourteen, I connected with my spirit baby. It was a girl, and I was really, really excited. And through the years, I've been concentrating, on connecting with her. Like, more and more information is coming. You know? Maybe I can hear the name or, you know, more about her personality is coming through. And it's kind of, it's really funny because I also was downloading what what my husband was gonna be like, you know, what country he was gonna come from, maybe his name. These kind of things were coming through. And then, like, just following what the universe is telling me to do next, next, next, next. And then, I met my husband, and he's not what I imagined him to be. Like, everything essential is there, but he looks different. And and, like, he's Japanese and, like, oh my gosh. You know? This is not the guy. But, we got together, and and then my baby came. Thing is it was a boy, and it was not the little baby that I was talking to. Mhmm. So, it took me quite a while to kind of get used to this, new relationship.
Speaker 3
And Did you did you find out the sex of the baby in the pregnancy?
Speaker 4
Yeah. And Yeah.
Speaker 3
So did you experience disappointment? Like, what was that what was that like? And I also wonder if you wish you had done that differently.
Speaker 4
Internally, like, I know that everything is perfect. That was how it's work supposed to work out. But in my mind, my brain was, saying, no. You know? I got pregnant before I got married. So I'm like, no. This is not the guy. No. This is not the baby. But but I'm so connected to my purpose that it's like my body is doing things. You know? I'm going places and meeting people even though my brain is saying,
Speaker 5
oh, no.
Speaker 4
So I got into this relationship. I got pregnant, and my body, like me, is saying this is it. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. And my my brain took me a couple years actually to realign myself. But, so I got pregnant, and then after one month, I found out. And, I'm psychic, so I started talking to my baby and my husband also. And we were talking to the baby. I'm like, no. Are you really sure you want to come? And baby's like, yes. Earth doesn't have much time. I need to come right now. So they're like, okay. And and so in Japanese, different from English, we use, different words for the different genders. Like, men would talk a certain way, women a certain way. So my baby was talking in a very male way, and, the image coming to was also a male. So his energy is just, very samurai like. And, yeah, there was no mistaking him. Yeah. And, actually, my second baby, we found out about him during my first pregnancy. So I was pregnant with my first boy, and then, probably six or seven months in, the second baby, connected with me. And we decided his name and everything. Yeah. And it's it's such a an interesting story because my second, was bringing so many messages, like numbers and names and and just, like, the same message over and over, and it's still happening today. It's like, Ina is his name, my second baby, and in Japanese is one seven. Like, And so one seven would appear everywhere. From two years back before my first baby was born, like, the second baby was sending messages just all the time. Wherever we would drive, the car in front would be one seven. You know? Our hotel number would be one seven, all these things. My second my first baby, sorry. He was not the one I was waiting for. But he came, and he brought so many, so much, healing and just bringing up all these ancestral stuff that had had to be fixed And all these these things that I had to look at were coming up during pregnancy. And all this healing of ancestral stuff from my mother and grandmother just. And and then I met this lady, this shaman lady who's a radical birth keeper in a real sense. We went to see her. She she's, she had eleven pregnancies. And with each pregnancy, she had huge spiritual experiences, and she became a shaman through her births. And, when I first met her, I walked in the door and she said, oh, I think I know you, and I'll come to your birth if you want. And my husband and I, we were we were gonna do it at home, just the two of us, But I was, going to meet different people who had, home births to get more you know, listen to their stories. And so we went to see her, and and she said, oh, I'll come. And then she told me that babies arrange a couple months before birth, pretty much the situation that they want the birth to be. So, like, inviting different people into into your life or, like, developing situations and stuff. And, so I think my son called her to be at the birth. And so the the birth was at home. It was my husband and I and but all the the all the scenes that I was looking at during pregnancy, all the issues that had come up from, came up during the birth, like, in that short space of time. It was forty hours, my first birth, that everything came up. And, and, ultimately, like, two or three hours before birth, I just said, okay. Everyone out of the room. And just me and this, this lady, the shaman lady called. Like, taking red I was taking radical responsibility for the birth. I told everyone to get out, and then and then the birth started to really get going. Right? Finally got the baby out. And and Yookseong, how she was during the birth, she was she wasn't, you know, supporting me or telling me to push or getting me things. It's like she was just there, and she was creating this safe space and protecting this energy, my birthing energy, from everyone else who was, you know, coming or going or whatever and just believing in me that I could do it. And, that that the way that she was, I've, you know, I've been through your school. It was so amazing. And her experience, her being there for me that way led me to the path of, you know, medical birth keeper and, going yeah. Working with birth and women.
Speaker 3
What is the climate of home birth in Japan? What is it like or not like? And then I'm also wondering how you you said you were planning until you met this woman to just do it alone with your husband. Like, had you had any did you have any reference point for that? I mean, tell me more about that because that's, you know, that's, like, fairly unusual to just be like, yeah. We'll just do it. So I wanna hear about what Japan's like, what the home birth climate's like, yeah, and how you guys even got into birthing your first baby without the medical system.
Speaker 4
K. So, I grew up in a family where we do not participate in the medical regime. We've never been in the medical system. We do everything, you know, ourselves. And for me, I was like, of course, I'm gonna birth at home. I mean, what other option do I have? Right? So, and my husband was also apparently thinking along the same lines. And so when I got pregnant, I was like, of course, I'm not going to. I am not going to. And and it was my first birth. You know, I don't have any reference point or experience. So I did a lot of research. I studied. I, went to meet people and, you know, people are like, oh, that's so, so unrealistic and, you know, irresponsible. So, yeah, I wanted to make sure I did everything that I could so that, you know, I wouldn't be irresponsible. But Japan, before the war, seventy years ago, everyone was born at home. But, part of the the
Speaker 5
the
Speaker 4
the politics American brought in, they brought home birth to a stop because they realized that birth at home creates stronger babies and also connects them to their mothers. Right? So it's like how to break down a a country, on your stop homework. You change the education. You know? Change the food. These are the main, really, really big things that they did to break down Japan. And, so today, we have, like, zero point two percent home births, I think. And, there's more and more people around me that I know that are choosing home births or at least, with, like, a doula or midwife. But probably ninety eight percent of the people, don't even know about, midwives. Like, it's only hospital. That's all they know about. So there's lots for me to you know, I'm gonna get the message out there in Japan. That's that's what we're doing right now. But
Speaker 3
yeah. Did you know anyone else in your generation or even above you who who also was like your family that just doesn't engage with the medical model? Like, did you know anyone else besides your own mother who was birthing at home?
Speaker 4
Well, I was born in Kenya, so, you know, most people in Kenya are just born in their huts. Personally, I didn't grow up with anybody, that I knew like that. But so, yeah, I knew there are lots of people out there.
Speaker 3
And so midwifery in Japan is not really a thing? Is it, like, even home birth regulated home birth, is that a thing, or it's just hospital and then there's some rogue attendants.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. It's just hospital. And then, they're making it more and more difficult for midwives to have clinics and, like, they're reeling all the midwives in to the medical, like, to be, in comp like, contract with the hospital. So there's midwives at the hospital. But, and there are clinics, you know, just with midwives. No doctors. But very few. And in some, some provinces, there's even no midwives. So
Speaker 3
And at the clinics, are they birth centers? Are the are women birthing there?
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 3
Okay. Okay. I mean, so it doesn't sound that different than a lot of other places. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, so I'm just trying to get my head wrapped around, like, your friend group, especially with that first baby. Mhmm. You're the only ones doing this. You're the only one birthing at home. And
Speaker 4
Well, sorry. Okay. So after I met my husband, around my husband, there's all these, you know, alternative types of people, you know, farming at home, homesteading, birthing at home. Around him, there are lots of people that I know that were birthing at home. Well, not lots. Maybe ten or so.
Speaker 3
Hey. That feels like a lot.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 6
It is. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3
So how does that birth shape you? I mean, having this fully supported, well held container for your first birth and a longer birth, and who are you after that? It sounds like that's really when your your fire gets lit about birth work yourself. Tell us about who you become after that birth into this most recent pregnancy.
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Okay. So, so like I mentioned before, I always known that creating family is, like, what I was born to do. And when I was very small, I was homeschooled, and my parents treated me as a small adult or, you know, as a whole person, and they didn't baby me or anything. And everyone else would treat me like, you know, a normal little baby who doesn't know anything. And from a very young age, I was I was saying, this is what creates war in the world. Like, the whole situation, everything messed up. I thought it was because, everyone wasn't treating children in the way they were born to be treated. I thought it was, like, education of children, how you raise your children that was creating the situation in the world. And I I was with that that view until I gave birth to my first son. But through pregnancy and birth, I realized that actually, the all the problems created in the world, what I think, is it goes before that. It starts at birth. Yeah. So, yeah, that's that's what got me into the, you know, okay. Birth is what I need to do. Mhmm. And I know that my soul my soul path I have this mission to birth babies as a representative of the human race. So it's like I am a symbol birthing the human race. And I understand that this is very, very, important. I mean, all women are doing that. Right? They're birthing their babies, in a symbolic way, but I knew that really this is how I need to do it. I'm birthing, so I need to really, really make sure that the birth space, like, everything about being pregnant, being a woman, being with this child needs to be sacred, needs to be protected, and needs to be in a healthy way so that, you know, in the in the all the ripples, it will work out that way in the world. Mhmm. And so it's been really interesting because the universe has made it has arranged it so that that can happen. With my first baby, I got pregnant, and I'm a therapist. So all around me, I had these, friends that were therapists, like, really, really, like, top class, therapists that I could go to if I was, you know, worried about something or, you know, I needed some help. I didn't have to go to a hospital. I could just go to my friends, or I could check out, you know, vibrational medicine or whatever. And, also, my husband, we we were creating this, village, homestead village, educational place in Kyoto. And, also, my husband was, working as a what do they call those things? It's like somebody who goes and lives in the in the countryside and tries to bring people back to the countryside. It's like, you know, it's, it's not a specific job. Like, they don't give you, okay. You have to do this and this and this. But it's, it asks for creativity and imagination to bring people back, and you get paid for that. So my husband was doing that, and so he was getting paid by the city hall. And so he would go to the city hall every week, and they all knew him. And, you know, he and, you know, he's he's the weird guy, and he's, you know, everyone's like, okay. He's he's different. And so when I got pregnant, I hear about a lot of stories of women who have trouble with the government. Like, you know, they it's illegal, but they wouldn't give the birth certificate just because they don't them or something. All these things. But, yeah. So I was protected from that because my husband worked at the city hall, and they everyone knew him. So when I got pregnant, and I'm like, I remember. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And I didn't get bothered by any social workers, because I didn't, you have to get this book before you give birth. You have to go to the social workers, and they give you this this book. It's like, you know, mother child book thing. Otherwise, you can't get your paperwork after birth. So, I didn't go until right before birth, so they didn't know I was pregnant. So they didn't bother me the whole time. And my husband and I, we we talk about this a lot with people, but we feel that birth is like you know, it's not all the woman, of course. It's like the the man has just as much of a big job to do in this the arrival of the baby. It's just a different job. So my husband, we think that men's roles are to protect the space of the woman so the woman can, you know, really concentrate on going deep into her spiritual experience into, the birth world and just so he he would drive me everywhere. I didn't have to use my, you know, my my lineal brain. He would do all the paperwork, all the payments, just everything. And, there was one incident where I had to go to the hospital for something while I was pregnant, and he went with me. Every time, you know, after I got my book, the social workers I had to meet them a couple of times. And so, you know, with all these kind of stressful meetings, he would be the one he would always be there. He would do the talking, and the social workers would have his phone number. And so I was really, really, you know, protected from any kind of weird communication with the outside. That was his job. And, you know, making sure I have everything I need, getting new places, just making sure I'm emotionally stable, because I didn't have friends at that time. And, yeah, he did an a really, really good job in protecting me and keeping me, happy while I was pregnant and also in the, postpartum too. So postpartum, everything, you know, the universe arranged it. So I had Monica, who was also with me during the school. Mhmm. She came postpartum to cook for a month or so. And, you know, so I was taken care of in that way. And everything was just arranged. It was just perfect. I wasn't bothered by anybody. And, so the birth of my first baby and then postpartum, and then I had some really, really, huge events in my life. My mother died, and I had some problems with my pregnancy, like, postpartum one month. And so it was a very stressful time after that for about a year. And I was so, not in alignment with my partner. I was so angry and stuff. And we it just, it occurred that we had to leave where we were. We had to leave our home. Now we're living with my father. But it was such a healing experience because as we were moving out, all these people came and this, one shaman lady, our friend came and she danced to heal the land, to kind of, you know, cleanse everything. And she said if there's anything you need to let go, just let it go. And so I let go all this, anger and stuff I had towards my, you know, marriage, and it really, really just was disappeared. It was gone. And the next day, this, another friend came to do American drum for us and pray. He really, really prayed, and I really connect with the Native American, way of prayer. And so that was a really, really special experience. And then it was in the same spot outside, the the dancing and the the drum. And then the next night, nobody was around. And my husband and I, we we, you know, I got pregnant. The next night You had
Speaker 5
your own dance. Yes. Exactly.
Speaker 3
Amazing. In the same spot?
Speaker 4
Same spot next night. So, yeah, all my resentment was gone. You know? I was connected with my soul, and then next night, I got pregnant. And that was the answer for me. It told me that I am on the path. I am supposed to be with this man. Everything is gonna work out fine. And that energy, that calmness, that that healing, it really brought me back to myself, and I realized, like, this energy that's coming through is the same energy that that I was connected to when I was fourteen. I think it was the same spirit. And the energy was so calm and also the messages we were getting, because we believe that, you know, the second baby is a historical figure. Like, he keeps sending these messages, like, I am. And so, historical figure is a woman. And so this energy coming through and everything, I thought it was a girl. And, like, you know, from fourteen, I was connected to this girl, so it's gotta be a girl. And so, the second pregnancy, all through the second pregnancy, all the issues that came up during the first pregnancy came up. Like, it's just, you know, going around, it's go it's getting better better.
Speaker 3
You mean, like, psychological issues or Both. Physical issues?
Speaker 4
It's more, internal development, I should say. Okay. All the same things came up. And then birth of my second son, it was four hours, one tenth of the time, my first. I didn't expect it to be four hours. I was thinking, okay. Maybe if I'm lucky, sixteen. You know? Because the first time was so long. And, so I went to the hot springs. We go there pretty much every day. And as I was going home, I felt my my baby screwing down into the pelvis. I felt him descending. And I got home and we're eating dinner, and then contractions start three minutes apart. They're like, oh, maybe these are contractions. And then ten minutes later, I am breathing. I'm really deep in there and, like, everyone get out. And, and the second time around also, the universe arranged so that it would be perfect. I wasn't bothered by anybody. Nobody really, knew or cared that I was pregnant. And my father, my husband husband's mother, my mother-in-law, came to be with us postpartum. So she arrived three or four days before the birth started. And so I had my father, my mother-in-law, my husband, and me, and my son. And, and I I mentioned this to you a long time ago. I you probably don't remember, but, I've always wanted to birth on the kitchen floor. Like, my ancestors in America, I'm half American. You know, they went all the way across the continent in their wagon and, like, you know, birthing on the kitchen floor. That's so special for me. And so I got the the birthing space ready. I got the kitchen ready. It's all warm. And then, contraction starts three minutes apart. Goes straight into the bedroom where my mother died, actually.
Speaker 7
It's the
Speaker 4
same room. Wow. And another thing I I really, really I think especially is that in Anne of Green Gables, they say, house only becomes a home when there's a death and a birth. So my mother died in that house, in that room, and so I go straight in there and I start to really push. And and then all the things that came up for me during pregnancy came again during those four hours. It started with, you know, I didn't wanna be born. You know? And, you know, I'm feeling all this anger coming up because I feel like my babies are using my body to get to this earth and all this deep stuff. And I got really scared. Like, this is dark stuff. Called Monica up, and she you know, it was the middle of the night, but she she answered the phone for me, and she said and I told her what's going on. She's like, that's okay. Let it come. And then that was it. I just needed to hear that. And then I let it come. And all these other things, these dark, deep transformations, and, I would be able to really I had to transform it before I could go to the next one.
Speaker 7
Yeah.
Speaker 4
And so it's building up. And and then finally, it's like I was, I I was screaming out, to the I opened the window and I was screaming out to the night. God, I choose positive thoughts. I choose happy thoughts. And then the baby came out. Oh, that really started with all this negative stuff, and I transformed it. And then, and then finally, when I really, really chose to be happy, I chose to be happy, then baby came out. And it was really funny because, like I said, it I thought it was gonna be sixteen hours or something, and I hadn't taken my pants off. And so Oh my god. What? And my husband later told me that, you know, with the sound of the voice, you can kinda tell how how, big you are. And so he's like, I think baby's coming soon. Are you sure you don't wanna take your pants off? I'm like, no. I'm eating three hours in. You know? No. Baby's not coming. And then I felt the head emerge.
Speaker 5
Oh my god. He's here.
Speaker 6
And so make
Speaker 3
it did you make it over to the kitchen?
Speaker 4
No. I didn't. I birthed in that room. Yeah. It was perfect. But the when I when I was birthing the first time, it was forty hours. I was so exhausted. And this time, it was only four hours, but it was just the same, exhaustion state.
Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4
It was so intense.
Speaker 3
Well, it's big work whether it's Yeah. It's also not all happening, like, in this plane.
Speaker 4
You know?
Speaker 3
There's so much happening in other realms. I think the journey is the journey, whether it's four hours or forty. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yeah. It's rebirth of your spirit.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, god. It really is, isn't it?
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 3
It really is. So then a boy pops out.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 3
And how does that go?
Speaker 4
It was really dark, so I didn't see him at first. But I didn't see the baby. Yeah. And then my husband's like, it's a boy. And I was like, oh, that's fine. I was totally happy with that. Like, the first time, you know, I had some reservations about if this is really supposed to be happening. But the second time is, like, perf and postpartum, it was, so peaceful. It was so he didn't he didn't drink, my at my breast for two days. He wasn't interested. Like,
Speaker 5
just you
Speaker 4
know, gazing peacefully at at me, and, we had this really peaceful time. And then after two days, he's like, okay. I'm hungry. Woah. So did he
Speaker 3
he did he even, like, suckle at all, or did was he
Speaker 4
just to. Like, I wasn't getting, colostrum. So at least I couldn't see it coming out. So I was kind of kind of worried about that for a little bit. But, yeah, he just wasn't interested. And then after two days, he finally got interested. Yeah. Very, very peaceful. And, and then my mother mother-in-law was there, and she yeah. I was worried about maybe there's gonna be some problems, like her birth story is gonna come up or, she's gonna try and, you know, take baby or whatever. I hear stories of these things happening. But, she was a very, very traditional Japanese mother, like, not there. But food is coming kind of situation.
Speaker 3
Love that.
Speaker 4
And she's she had her own restaurant. She's a really good cook. So, like, excellent meals. Really balanced, like, eight eight or different eight or nine different dishes. And Amazing. Yeah. It was great. And, Monica, I I, so leading up to the words, I had arranged everything. My nest building, instincts were really, really full on. I made lists about, what to do, like, each role. You do this. You do this when birth starts. I made, you know, I sewed all the sheets. I organized everything, and I made lists of, like, what my daughter likes to eat and how to make those recipes, what I like to eat postpartum, what I want to eat during birth. Like, just I wrote everything down. And, so I didn't have to worry about anything when I was, postpartum. I just laid in the bed for ten days. Like, in Japan, they say thirty days or forty days. You just stay in bed and you don't move, but I can't do that. I have to move. So after ten days, like, I crawled outside and started walking around and stuff. But so I rang I asked, I asked her whether, Monica offered to come for me postpartum. So after three three days or so, she arrived, and she stayed with us for a month. And so my husband was taking care of all my needs, you know, taking me to the toilet or getting me things or taking care of everything. My my father took care of my toddler, and my mother-in-law took care of all the cooking, dishes, laundry. And Monica was there for me for my heart. So I could talk things over, you know, look at the baby. She gave me a massage and just all those things. It's like it was so perfect and so wonderful. And I was so grateful, and it's like, you know, it's it there was no stress. There was there were things that needed to be addressed. But I had all the tools and all the support I needed to address them. So so it was perfect.
Speaker 3
You have, like, a full a full puzzle, like, all the pieces.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 3
That's beautiful. I think a lot of women I know a lot of women overlook that piece. Mhmm. You know, like, yes, you can hire the help or task the people, but where is the heart tending? Where is the touch? Where is the stories? Where is the oohing and aahing over the baby? Like, those those very, womanly. And, like yeah. Like, the word I'm here thinking is, like, kin, you know, like, the the women who are our kin, you know, that that do that. It's so it's so important. It's such a significant puzzle piece. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. And then postpartum, all the issues that came up during pregnancy and birth came up again. It's like this spiral. It's getting better. It's getting bigger. But, like, over and over again, I address them, and it improves. Just so much healing is happening from this whole journey.
Speaker 3
So, like, what does that mean? What does that look like? What does that mean? What's coming up?
Speaker 4
Like, I think, during pregnancy, all the things that you need to address to become a whole person, a more complete, like, developed human being that you need to address, that your soul needs to address. I think those things come up, and it's birth, pregnancy, all these things are huge chance for you to grow as a human being. And so I believe that, like, at least in my experience, all these issues that I need to work on in myself come up during pregnancy. And then I work through them. And if I work through them, I feel like it's going to be a smoother much smoother if you if I address them. And then with birth, all those things come up again, and it's like, you have to fix it now or baby's not coming kind of thing. It's just like, the portal is open, and you are connected to your spirit, to the universe, and that's the huge chance to move forward in your development. And, yeah, and then postpartum, it's like the door is not kind of closing, you know,
Speaker 5
but,
Speaker 4
it's integrating all that that growth and all those messages that have come through Yeah. Into the postpartum and into the life that you're gonna live after.
Speaker 5
Mhmm.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Just endless learning. So many, lessons are brought through birth that you can use. And, yeah, I felt like so the pregnancy and birth really, really, transformed me and and brought me all these insights and all this new growth, and then and gave me the tools that I need. Like, I wrote down all the the things that came up for me during birth. I pinpointed them, and and each one of them was a tool. Monica made me this wonderful mobile for the baby, and and she put, these, these tabs hanging from it. So, I could I could write in each, each lesson that I learned from my birth. Mhmm. Yeah. And so each one of those, around ten different things that came up for me during birth, I wrote it down. And, like, with the with each, each thing that came up, like, for instance, I didn't wanna be born, that transformed into, like, I am here, and this is supposed to be happening. That kind of, you know, transformation, then that is my tool that I can use all my life. And so postpartum, I've been able to, use these tools, like these lessons that I have learned. And the same cycle again postpartum, like, all the same question is coming up for me. Have you really learned this? And, are you ready to really, really take it to the next level? Are you gonna transform it? And and, yeah. So it's it's like keeps coming around like the seasons, but it's getting better
Speaker 5
and better and better. Yeah.
Speaker 3
I like the image of the spiral getting wider. Yeah. I hear you. Yep. That's very, very well articulated. So what are some other big lessons that you feel like you've trans transmitted or or been able to work with since his birth?
Speaker 4
The main theme for me has been, radical responsibility, radical self responsibility. So, yeah, that's that's, that's, I guess, the main overarching theme. And under under those themes, like, it has, come up for me in different different ways. But radical self responsibility and, you know, we talk about that so much in the radical birth keeper school. And having all those tools and all those women that we can connect with, like, the community that you've created, And, it's been such such a huge help. Yeah. It's been great.
Speaker 3
For real. Yeah. It is quite the quite the ripple effect. Mhmm. Because you don't you don't take radical self responsibility in one area and not somewhere else. Right? Mhmm. I mean, we try, but that's not that's not the sustainable move. Yeah.
Speaker 4
That's right. Well, what
Speaker 3
else do you wanna share, or do you feel or do you feel complete? I'd love to hear a little bit about what your work looks like now and how how this has, yeah, just continued to support your work.
Speaker 4
Yeah. So, until I gave birth, I was I felt my work was in the in the realm of, children. How how do you treat children? And I don't mean schooling or anything like that. I mean, how do you, what energy do you bring to the relationship with the child? And so, just being with children and playing together, cooking together, all these things, homeschooling them basically. And then integrating into their consciousness, these lessons about self worth, like how you treat them and what energy will will make us, like, inside inside of the child, subconscious choices or about who they are. Like, are they, you know, responsible? Are they worthy? All these things, like, what energy you bring kind of changes how they are. So I thought I was gonna be, changing the world in that way. But with the birth, I've really realized that, supporting mothers and babies is is my work. So right now, Monica and I, we've created this Facebook, like, group at for, Japanese women. Anyone who's interested in home birth, we we put stuff out there. And I'm not ready yet to, like, do one one to one support yet because my, you know, baby's still too small and stuff. So I'm just kind of seeing how it goes. But right now, my husband and I, we are living in the countryside. We're homesteading and creating this, like, this our land for the generations to come for our family. And also the village that we are in, we are we're gonna create community, bring people in, and, like, yeah, really, really, create community, take care of the land, you know, grow things and homeschool and, you know, create a school and all these things. And in that village vision that we have, having powerful, really, really empowered, masculine men and feminine women or I wouldn't say, like, like, just having people who respect the masculinity and the femininity in each person and just taking taking care of that and having creating, like, festivals or ceremonies for for, like, women's circles or things for men, just in the everyday of that village. And birthing, having the postpartum support, you know, just the community for women so they can birth in the village, like, at home if they want to. It's just kind of really, really just creating this kind of I don't know. What do you say? Like, a new country or I just wanna make the possibilities open for everyone who is interested in these end times. You know?
Speaker 3
Or beginning times?
Speaker 4
Beginning times. Yeah. Beautiful. Birth times. Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 3
Well, how can women find you and learn more about you if they're interested?
Speaker 4
I'm not really online. I'm only on Instagram. So, I can put my Instagram tag. But, yeah, all the things we're doing in Japan are mostly just posted in Japanese. Mhmm. But, yeah, I'm very happy to connect with anyone.
Speaker 3
So if someone's hearing this and they're Japanese and they wanna join your birth group, would they just find
Speaker 4
you through Instagram? Instagram. Alright. Facebook group. Facebook birth group is actually, the name is in Japanese.
Speaker 3
I assumed.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Community group home birth Japan is the name. So if they're Japanese, they can understand it.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Totally.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 3
Loved hearing more into who you are, and I appreciate you acknowledging the, you know, the underworld that comes with with motherhood and with birthing ourselves and Mhmm. With our our deepest So
Speaker 4
much darkness. So much transformation. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Thank you, Noriko. Thank you.
Speaker 2
And that's it for today, my sisters. Check out everything we do, including one on one and group coaching. Learn about our private membership, in person retreats, and more on free birth society dot com. Our online courses are on free birth society courses dot com, including our flagship course, the complete guide to free birth. Don't miss the radical birth keeper school if you're ready to become the authentic midwife that women are searching for. Together we rise and the revolution starts inside each of us. I'll leave you with our Freebird Society theme song, Wild Woman by Aruba Red.
Speaker 7
I honor you for the wisdom you held, the ancient traditions of plant medicine and womb magic. Magic. I feel the spirit of the ancestors as I place my hands upon my belly. This sacred portal will be honored, eons upon light beams of survival, withstanding the eradication of our power by design. I will not allow the separation of our young to be forced upon me. My sisters will no longer birth in captivity. The picket line redefined from burning our wild women to paralyzing us and drugging our babes. Strapped down in a clinical white bed, drying up the milk from our breasts, keep your needles. My family will never again be doomed to chase those dragons all your poison. We reject your fear. We choose love. Everything with intention. Death, ascension. I will fly and bring her back to the star. Wild woman, she still lives inside. Wild woman, from you I will not hide.
